DOJ appoints special counsel to oversee Russia probe

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  1. Diamond

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    I'm not the one here promoting wasting taxpayer money to follow theories. Seth Rich worked for the DNC and the Hillary campaign, sent information to Wikileaks and wound up dead just around the corner from his home. No hacking was required, no Russians, no Trump camp involvement. He exposed Hillary and wound up dead, no leads, no investigation. He was shot, I'd call that evidence of foul play. His family is scared, understandably. He was alive when police arrived, yet they somehow got no testimony from him about what happened, and then he died (that's suspect). The police said the area was plagued by robberies, correct; over the last 12 months there were zero cases of assault with a dangerous weapon in Bloomingdale, one robbery, seven thefts, and one car theft. There was no "plague" of any sort. So the police lied.

    There is no Russian IP finger print. If they had that then they'd be able to pin point that user (which they have yet to be able to do).
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course I was expecting this from those who rely on the MSM rather than investigating different media but wasn't interested in their habitual hack responses, yours included.

    You clearly never read and don't understand another point of view but the similarities will become more apparent once the investigation begins by professional people, not the MSM..
     
  3. raytri

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    Do you think the DOJ wanted to appoint a special counsel? They were forced to do so because of the known facts and Trump's own actions. That is not "wasting taxpayer money to follow theories."

    You, on the other hand, are just promoting baseless conspiracy theories with not a shred of evidence to support them.

    Correct.

    BZZT! Stop lying. There is no evidence of this.

    Correct.

    And yet we have evidence of Russian hacking, and no evidence of Seth Rich leaking. Weird.

    Stop lying. There is no evidence of this.

    He was apparently mugged. The police found no evidence of anything beyond that.

    People are killed every day in attempted robberies. Why should we believe your conspiracy theory -- for which there is ZERO evidence -- over that mundane reality?

    How is that "suspect"? Are the DC police now in on the conspiracy?

    #1, that map doesn't go back to the 12 months before the shooting. #2, that map shows WELL over that many robberies in the last 12 months before today, as well as multiple assaults with a deadline weapon. So either we are looking at different data, or you are simply wrong.

    Again, you are simply wrong. The malware left behind on the DNC servers pointed to IP addresses known to be used by Russia-affiliated hackers. They also found the phishing sites used in the DNC hack -- also hosted on IP addresses used by Russian hackers.
     
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  4. raytri

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    Your opinion does not make me wrong.

    I read Breitbart, as I read other biased conservative media, until they went completely around the bed and fully discredited themselves with their slavish support of Trump. They are now a joke.
     
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    Whats the crime?
     
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    FBI hasn't yet been allowed to examine that server.
     
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    Winning a free and fair election.
     
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    It already is a murder investigation.

    “'Neither of [the leaks] came from the Russians,' Murray said. 'The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks.'

    He said the leakers were motivated by 'disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders.’”

    “’I don't understand why the CIA would say the information came from Russian hackers when they must know that isn't true,' he said. 'Regardless of whether the Russians hacked into the DNC, the documents Wikileaks published did not come from that.’”
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...termediary-disgusted-Democratic-insiders.html

    There is no mystery about where the leaks came from.
     
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    Which is obstruction of justice.
     
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    The smart Left has tried to warn them.
     
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    He didn't ask him to drop the investigation. He merely expressed his opinion that he "hoped" he could, fully recognizing that the decision is his.
     
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    Winning an election isn't a crime
     
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    Has anyone actually seen this "memo"?
    Has Comey said that Trump asked him to "drop the case"?
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:Sarcasm right?
     
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    It is if you're a republican.
     
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    How did the Clinton 'Whitewater' investigation lead to Monica's dress? No one knows where this will go but it will certainly lead to the DNC and Hillary at some point , it has to, they are connected.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm actually more interested in facts than your feelings. I can turn on the news any time and see the whiners complaining about one thing or another while wholly uninterested in opinions which differ from theirs. Dull stuff.
     
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    That's right but unfortunately for the party, and ultimately for the country, their numbers are diminishing. The country needs a strong and honest opposition party but too many Dems have been confusing hysteria with rational debate, and the country can suffer as a result. They're guaranteeing Trump another four years if they don't start listening to the people.
     
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    It is for the TDS crowd. They just need to look for something to latch onto they call a crime, even if it is legal.
     
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    What's the IP address? There was only one robbery in Bloomingdale over the last 12 months (that is confirmed by the site) so there was no plague, nor was there any evidence of a mugging since nothing was taken. You are the one here basing claims without evidence (theories), Seth Rich was Wikileaks source. Maybe one day you'll stop relying on fake news.
     
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    That still doesn't make any sense. The investigation of Clinton led to other things -- about Clinton.

    Please explain how an investigation into Trump would plausibly lead to Clinton.
     
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    Relying on Limbaugh and Breitbart is not being "interested in opinions which differ from yours."

    And despite your deflection, I do not ignore opinions that differ from mine. I read a wide range of conservative sources and opinions.

    What I don't do is pay attention to sources that lack credibility. Like Breitbart and Limbaugh.
     
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    Huh? I went to the link you gave me.

    That's not confirmed at all. I went to the site you linked to, and came up with far different numbers for Bloomingdale in the last 12 months. Maybe you can walk me through the steps you went through in order to reach your conclusion, so I can try to see the same data as you.

    It is surprisingly common for an attempted-mugging-gone-wrong to result in nothing taken. When a mugger realizes he just killed someone, he skedaddles rather than stick around. Your attempt to imply suspicion is, again, baseless.

    What am I claiming without evidence?

    That link says that allegation is "unproven". And notes that the source is the same "private investigator" who has now admitted he has no evidence of a WikiLeaks connection.

    Says the guy posting links that refute his point, relying on claims that are not only unlikely, but for which there is ZERO evidence.
     
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    What's the matter with you? Whenever did I "rely" on either of these sources? I just made several links on another thread and neither site was involved. However if I want to link to them again I certainly will, snowflakes be damned.
    Do you think anyone really cares?
     
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