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  1. Sharpie

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    Vaping began as a healthy way to cut back, or quit tobacco. Now it has become a new sport.
    But vaping is not risk-free, especially for kids and teens. A host of new studies have now uncovered worrisome health concerns: bleeding mouths and throats, severe gum disease, and even cancer risks. https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/concerns-explode-over-new-health-risks-vaping

    I'm thinking about this because last week, while my car was stopped at a red light, I happened to notice the driver behind me vaping. He let out a huge dense cloud of smoke, and was momentarily unable to see through his windshield to the road ahead. As the light turned green and traffic moved, he had to open his window and wave out the smoke, while horns blared, until it was safe for him to drive. So, beyond health issues, what other problems could come from vaping? Do you think there should be any regulation at all?
     
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    My son is still in high school and has told me that they allow students to vape in classrooms. Because it is supposedly not dangerous or addicting, even teens that had never smoked cigarettes, started vaping...Supposedly it is the new cool
     
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    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is not just vapor now, it is whatever someone drips into the pen or box. Kids can be attracted to the sweet flavorings, there can be varying amounts of nicotine or cannabis. The National Institutes of Health have declared smoking as a gateway drug.
     
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    If this is true it is just plain ignorant. Nicotine is addictive. They have just found another way to enslave another generation. After the monumental struggle I had to quit smoking I am completely against vaping in the classroom. What kind of idiots are teaching your kids?
     
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    Anyone addicted to nicotine is much better off vaping than smoking tobacco.
     
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    Public education, my kids know I would tan their hides if they tried...when they grow up and move out, then they can make their own decisions.
     
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    I can understand someone using vaping to try to quit smoking, and it is safer than cigarettes. But to allow it in school?...retarded.
     
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    neither is drinking caffeine.... should we regulating drinking soda in a car as one could spill some on themselves and distract their driving

    what happen to the right wanting less regulations, not more?
     
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    Where in the world do you live?
     
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    Reading this reminded me that when I first started college, we could smoke in the classroom.
     
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    Open the window if you vape?

    Simple answer: NO! Unless we see a fraction of the people killed by vaping while driving, that we do texting, it is a non issue.
     
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    Our son went ahead and got himself addicted to nicotine intentionally. Maddening.

    I used vaping to quit smoking five years ago. I started with a high mg nicotine level, 18 and going through a lot of juice. It was still cheaper and healthier than smoking. Fairly quickly, exercising was possible and I was saving a ton of cash. $100/month versus over $200/month.

    As the years went by, I dropped to 12 mg, then 6 mg and now I'm at 3 mg. In addition to lowering the nic level, I've also gradually reduced how much I use. 5 years ago it was around $100/month. Now, I only spend about $15/month, if even that. I can now leave the house without a vape pen and be okay. I imagine at some point I'll just stop using it altogether. It's more habit then not, at this point.

    Vaping is good when used for the right reasons, but it is disheartening that so many young people are getting addicted intentionally.
     
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    Also in the theater during a movie - at your desk at work - in an airplane.
     
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    In the hospital... I remember smoking in the hospital at age 16 when I was in for a surgery.

    They asked if I wanted a smoking or non-smoking room. That was the first time my mother realized I smoked. But wasn't going 4 or 5 days without a smoke. :D
     
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    Where I work we sell vape/e-juices. But one needs to show ID that he's over 19 before he can buy it.
     
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    Seems like everywhere I see signs advertising vaping and all the flavor options. Its great for people who used it to quit smoking, but its turning a cool fad.
    Its strange a school let kids vape in class, maybe they should give out those "fidgets" instead. lol
     
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    How do you, unintentionally, get addicted to nicotine? Isn't it always intentional? :laughing:
     
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    Same with me, but nicotine is about as addictive as caffeine. What ever that back climbing monkey is that gets you hooked on cigarettes it's not the nicotine, it's something else. I've been on lake Powell for a week and my pen charger crapped out on me. No issues going without at all. Had I been still smoking cigarettes and they fell overboard, I wouldnt have thought twice about burning $100 in fuel to get to the marina to get more.
     
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    Well, 30-50 years ago, we didn't truly understand the nature of addiction. Our son watched me struggle over and over to quit. He swore he never wanted that for himself. Whatever. Taking up a habit today is intentional.
     
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    Its not addictive unless the liquid has nicotine in it.

    I imagine that is what a school would allow, but to me it seems easier to monitor if vaping by students is just outlawed.

    We couldn't chew gum at school. School sux. get over it.
    Why didn't he just use nicotine-free liquid?
     
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    Yes, I'm aware of how vape juice works. ;) And, he didn't check with us before setting out to get himself addicted, so I have no idea.
     
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    I wasn't suggesting otherwise. Just dumbfounded by his stupidity.
     
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    I don't trust the vape thing. I wonder what health risks we'll see from these things 100 years from now.
     
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    Nothing is without risk, but it saved my life. At 45, I was out of shape and unable to climb the stairs. At 50, I'm in the best shape of my life.
     

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