Looks like the U.K. will never be able to have freedom of gun ownership now

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by kazenatsu, Jun 9, 2017.

  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    So when are you going to actually post the imaginary founders words the limit the rights of Supreme Court Justices to interpret the Constitution as they believe is correct Or are you going to keep posting irrelevent quotes that have no bearing on the topic.
     
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    what exactly is your purpose for posting on gun threads?
     
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    When are you going to recognize that the words I posted go directly to the heart of your false arguments and blow them out of the water? Oh, right.... you won't.
     
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    I'm still waiting for him to admit he was wrong about his claim that machine guns are illegal.
     
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    Yes, I noticed that.
     
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    me to!
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but I actually undestand the English language which makes it impossible to accept your imaginary interpretation.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    That is because modern maching guns are banned. That should not be too complicated for even gun apologists to comprehend.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    An attempt to bring rational thought to the discussion. What is your purpose?
     
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    And by the way it was 6Gunner who originally said fully automatic weapons are banned. To quote his post:

    " Fully automatic weapons have been heavily restricted since 1934 and the purchase of new ones banned in 1986. How the F can we "limit access" when they're already banned?"
     
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    1. Registered full auto sear 2. Demo class 3 firearms. 3. How is an M16 manufactured in 1985 not modern?
     
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    Your are right I should have said current although not sure that guns last made in 1985 can really be considered modern. That is after all 32 years ago. Doubt you would consider most things made 32 years ago modern.
     
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    Slapping a 2017 AR-15 upper on a pre 86 registered lower modernizes it suffiently, don't you think? The lower design itself hasn't really changed. A pre-1981 registered Drop In Auto Sear is registered as the actual machine gun and I believe can be installed in a modern AR-15 kit.

    I seem to remember your point is that the Hughes Amendment exists and there is insufficient uproar opposition to it as some levels. I know many have expressed opposition to it here, and I not sure exactly what support or lack thereof would suffice to make your point.
     
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    SOOO sorry to have confused you. My statement is factually correct: any new manufacture fully-automatics are banned from private sale. Anything manufactured after 1986 is not allowed. I find that law arbitrary and capricious and it is not in any way even vaguely constitutional, but that's the law as it stands right now. Purchase of fully automatic weapons from BEFORE that time remain legal, so fully-automatic firearms are not actually fully "banned" per se. My point remains valid; I said "the purchase of new ones banned in 1986", which is correct, your inability to comprehend it notwithstanding.
     
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    Then you don't understand the English language as much as you seem to think.
     
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    Your moving the goalposts aside...
    You're still wrong - you either don't know it, or you do and don't care.
     
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    Abject, unsupportable nonsense.
    Example: The -current- M16A2 service rifle was produced prior to May 1986
     
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    You are correct.
     
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    ....And you can buy a properly registered, select-fire pre-'86 M4/M16 trigger group and drop it into any modern made AR. Brand new gun with only the addition of a part that tends to not wear out if properly maintained, and you have a fully modern, tactically relevant combat rifle. Those trigger groups are not cheap by any stretch of the imagination and they are not always easy to find, but they are out there.
     
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    There are -innumerable- examples that nullify his claim.
     
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    No, modern Machine guns are not banned, models made after 1986 are modern and can be totally upgraded.
     
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    Definition:


    modern adjective (MOST RECENT)
    designed and made using the most recent ideas and methods:
     
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    Nothing here changes the fact you are trying to cover the fact you were wrong by moving the goalposts.
     
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    What designs and ideas have changed with regards to the M16?
     
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    Numbers do not lie, but foreigners and liberals often do; particularly when attempting to interfere with the internal workings their betters...
     

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