Supreme Court to hear case of baker's refusal to make wedding cake for gay couple

You can sit in judgement of whichever Christian denominations you don't like, and damn all Episcopalians if that is what you feel you need to do. Sectarian strife has been a tedious hallmark of all major religions.

I have no idea how the Court will rule, and would no be in the least surprised if the majority took another step toward theocracy.

 

Yes, yes I can. Throw the Pope in there for good measure. Not theocracy, freedom.

 

Lol, nobody is forced to participate in any lifestyle.

 

You are free to deem your personal interpretation of scripture superior to that of the Episcopalian Church if you need to, but personal interpretations do not validate religious exemptions.

In any event you would find no taboo about baking cakes for any purpose in any bible, talmud, qu'ran, vedas, tao te ching, or any other sacred text, and it would be more relevant to consult Fanny Farmer.

 

The reason our society and through the laws, promote, encourage and sanction heterosexual unions is the nuclear family is vital to the survival of our society and species. It is in our vital interest. Homosexuality is not vital to our society and harmful to our species and society therefore not in our vital interest.

 

I always knew something was weird about Episcopalians. "Alter boy abusers lite". You confirmed my suspicions.

 

Just wanted to point out that no Bible, no matter the denomination, defines marriage as one man and one woman only. Nor does it so much as mention homosexuality, or same sex marriage.

 

Homosexuality is in no way harmful to the species, or society, lol

 

Sure it is we are a heterosxual species and at the least there is no benefit to society from homosexuality while there is such a HUGE benefit from heterosexuality we could not survive as a society or a species without it.

 

Sodom and Gomorrha just called, and want's it's queers back.

 

He does business with them all the time he simple does not make artistic creations for the type of event in which they were involved like he doesn't make cakes for adult parties, the KKK, even Halloween.

 

There is no harm what so ever in homosexuality. Not to the species, or society. If every single human were suddenly homosexual tomorrow, they wouldn't suddenly also become sterile. You don't need to be heterosexual to procreate.

Rights aren't based on societal benefits. You have to demonstrate a compelling governmental interest in the DENIAL of a right, not the exercising of a right.

 

Please quote where homosexuality or same sex marriage is mentioned in those passages.

 

Not being able to reproduce is nature's way of shutting down recessive genes and traits. Or at least controlling it. Otherwise mankind would cease to procreate/reproduce at some point.

 

He did not refuse to sell to them because they are gay. He refused to create a product to be used in a function celebrating homosexuality.

 

Seriously? Do your own digging. Where do you think "sodomy" was coined from?

 

I'm just having problems comprehending someone who doesn't respond to facts and logic and am looking for possible reasons why.

Well, beside the fact that withholding one's professional cake services are nothing like throwing stones at people you long ago agreed in principle (in the example of the Jewish t shirt printer) that it is indeed proper and understandable
that someone should not be compelled to provide a service that is an anathema to their conscience and closely held morals.
So tell yourself that you yourself have already established a clear cut rationale in this baker's defense.

And the Jew only prints pictures and lettering on t-shirts...so why is this one service okay to withhold but not in the case of a baker? Is there something magically different about people that bake for a living? Are their constitutional rights somehow different?
Of course, already admitting as you did you really have no leg to stand on.

Well since mechanics, travel agents, etc. have nothing to do with the wedding itself
your attempt to weaken the argument by making the claim overly broad fails but in principle every citizen in the United States of America has a constitutionally guaranteed right to religious freedoms so I'm sorry that the constitution offends you so.

As far as your claim that there is no biblically based doctrine that establishes marriage is intended solely for one man and one woman
that's just plainly absurd and easily dismissed as nonsense.

My answer was already clearly given. Speaking of ad homs
your attacks on the baker himself changes nothing really.

Another absurdity
that only further weakens your already impotent argument.

 

So you can't cite the passages mentioning homosexuality or same sex marriage?

It's ok, we both know it's not mentioned anywhere in any Bible.

 

It's there. Google is your friend. I, on the other hand, am not. Educate yourself.

 

I didn't know people who engage in homosexual behavior could not reproduce otherwise. And I have the recessive gene for color blindness and I reproduced quite well.

 

Try having a baby with with another color blind man and post back. I want to see if that trait is passed on. You know what I mean.

 

I don't know where you get your "facts" from but you are easily disproved. http://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/marriage-bible-verses/
The bible is FILLED with references to and endorsements of traditional marriage. They are the actual source of such tradition! Surprise!

 

Just for giggles I looked and took 20 seconds.

Leviticus 20:13English Standard Version (ESV)
13 A)" data-cr="#cen-ESV-3332A" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 0.625em; line-height: 22px; position: relative; vertical-align: top; top: 0px;">If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

 

I know, right? I only listed one. I was thinking, is this clown kidding?

 

I'm sorry you are making no sense. First homosexuality has not been proven to be genetic and those with the color blindness recessive genes have not been shown to engage in homosexual behavior at a higher rate than the general population.

But are you really trying to say that homosexuality IS genetic and it is just natures way to eliminate those with the gene? Well then all the more reason we as a society should not promote, encourage or sanction it.