Fascinating. Over the past 5 months or so Polls I have seen tend to go against what Davidson and Westminster say on Indy. I decided to do a search. What I came to was an online Poll by the Courier a Dundee Paper. https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/new...lt-affect-case-scottish-independence/[/quote] Obviously the rational answer to this is No. If the idea of a second referendum was what reduced the SNP vote, which by the way I do not believe it was but if it was, then it would be rational to say that the general election result affected the case for Scottish Independence. They appear to be demanding the answer that it will, not doubt to then turn into, not wanted. However the result was 53.06% said it strengthened the case for Scottish Independence and only 46.94% that it weakened! so as far as they are concerned another Indy is on! What she has basically done is said that she will put preparations on hold until we know the details of Brexit - possibly as early as October of next year. This is a slight change but is not very different from what it was before. There never was going to be a vote until the details of Brexit were known.
She's in denial it seems, and just won't stop calling for independence. Meanwhile Scottish Ministers want her to do her job and run Scotland.
SNP = 1 trick pony. Which doesn't cut the mustard in office. As long as they manoeuvre for independence, they can never represent the political will of the majority of Scots. A minority attempting mob rule = fail.
48% of the people in the Countries of the UK and the majority of those who knew anything about the matter are being totally ignored and shouted down. What would be the policy of a coalition that represented all of us?
As you know, Labour is the only Party whose membership want to return to democracy after the Bliar coup.
hardly... Calling for the PM to resign isn't voting the PM out. Especially after losing the General Election..
I don't follow. The political life of the UK is run by Mr Murdoch, and the Labour Party (as opposed to the Blairies) want to return to democratic politics. What has that to do with confidence votes?
Confiden London voted to remain, had nothing to do with confidence votes. Bad taste to hold up Parliament Square when there were more pressing things to worry about than Labour. I hope you're not suggesting it was more important than Brexit. London votes to remain, UK votes to leave, we leave. Corbyn saw fit to hold a rally at Parliament Square about Labour!? Who cares about Labour!? What about London being pulled out of the EU by the rest of England?
In all honesty, we got our Parliament Square back 2 weeks after Brexit, 2 weeks of watching Corbyn camp out and others else where free to protest this Brexit... But the Londoners who wanted to voice ourselves couldn't. We just couldn't, it was called for, but wasn't allowed until afterwards, because of Labour and votes of no confidence. Proof that Jeremy Corbyn puts Labour before the country, you can't justify to me being in the British Capital that this is the centre of politics and so is the place for Labour at a time when he faced the wolfs... Londoners like myself face a dark, scary, undesirable part fascist future, and what did he care? He literally moved into PARLIAMENT SQUARE. If I were a lesser man, I'd say, not only does he not respect democracy calling for the PM to resign, but he needs to be punched in the nose for hijacking Parliament Square for days and days on end after London voted to remain but the country voted to leave the EU and it's the place Londoner's have to do this sort of thing. Again - Who gives a **** about Labour!?.. Bunch of corporate hating lying money grabbing good for nothings. Lies Labour'll tell you is that bankers are greedy, they'd tell you this lie about bankers being greedy and then help themselves to the banker's pockets!
It's like Labour can't see their own mistakes.. Thinking a vote of no confidence mattered more than Brexit / blocking Londoner's from expressing their outrage... Very bad @RiaRaeb @Ned Lud
London voters don't get to dictate everything to everybody else. You suffer from the same logic that California voters do over Trump. Even over here on the low-brow, redneck side of the pond, the complaints about parliament disproportionately favoring London's economy at the expense of the rest of the UK could be heard wafting in the air. I am amazed at how many people on both sides of the Atlantic simply cannot grasp that most of voter "fear" is grounded in their personal economic situations regardless of how it manifests itself in terms of issues. If people do not feel that they have economic security, the do not feel that they have any security. People who are economically secure are not easily swayed with fear tactics because they feel that they have options if things start to go south around them.
London couldn't rally about it until after Corbyn left Parliament Square weeks later. I remember, I was waiting and googling for the protest I wanted to attenend because if ever I felt a need to take to the streets about something; Brexit was it. I was waiting on Labour's vote of no confidence which hijacked London with a non issue until it was too long, and I missed it because of the CCP (Corbyn Chaos Platform).
Aren't protests really masturbatory for people who have already made up their minds? Is there a different dynamic in the UK than here in the US regarding how effective they are at swaying voters?
Most politicians do but I am not sure what that has to do with the Brexit vote since Corbyn got the same one vote as you, the queen's maid, any given member of One Direction, the factory worker in Liverpool, the pub wench in Coventry, etc.
I don't see why Labour felt the need to use Parliament Square to fend off a Labour coup when Britain voted to leave the EU.
No. Parliament Square is where we go in this democracy and it happened there (in the end). Had to wait while Corbyn did his Labour thing, which, I still don't get why he needed Parliament Square to fend off the vote of no confidence and why it mattered when the country just voted to leave the EU but London and the rest of the 49% of the UK voted to remain. I don't see why Labour needed to do this in public and occupy Parliament Square to do it when other people needed that square that week. Greedy Labour Selfish Corbyn.
Call me a skeptic, but in a city as large as London, I am guessing Parliament Square isn't the only place protests are allowed. If it were, however, think of how much more effective it would be if you occupied something else
You're missing the point assuming London's like the US. There is only one Parliament Square, and it was hijacked by Corbyn. Why should Labour not move on to somewhere else? Just open your mind and stop defending Labour and stop suggesting Londoner's chose another venue to voice our outrage. I mean it, all I say, you seem to think it's okay for Jeremy Corbyn to hijack Parliament Square after the UK voted to leave but London voted to remain splitting up the country 49 to 51 % - You just won't hold Labour to accountability. If your next suggestion asks us to compromise for Corbyn, then realise that it's not good enough and we come first, **** Labour, they're not even in power so who cares about a Labour vote of no confidence?
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...n-support-of-labour-leader-amid-a3281306.html What did this have to do with Brexit? This had to wait. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...aturday-2-july-anti-result-live-a7111581.html