Is America Headed for a New Kind of Civil War?

Terrorism is a political act ment to achieve a political goal

What the man in charlottsville commited was simple violence

There has been violence on both sides that feeds on itself

Meaning acts of violence on the left generate acts of violence on the right and visa versa

 

Sure "mate"

Are you one of those Waltzing Matilda Aussies?

Yes the CEO's are fat and happy with things just as they are

and have no incentive to work with trump if it threatens the cushy deal they have for themselves

Which is hardly material for a new chapter of "Profiles in Courage"

 

Trump has become so alienating and dividing that companies are afraid their products will be boycotted. Never in history has a president been that unliked. And CEOs are predominantly Republican - about 90% last I looked!

 

If Saddam was such a bad guy, I wonder why we supported him so heavily in the 80's? I wonder why so many high ranking US officials were photographed with him?

At least he kept the sewer and water running until we took him out.

I'm guessing your world view is formed by what the talking heads on mainstream media tell you it is.

 

http://blog.gentlemint.com/2016/jul/13/tomahawk-steak-what-it-and-should-you-buy-it/#problems

 

Has it been determined at what point his car's back window was smashed?

Is he really a deliberate terrorist, or was he just attempting to flee a mob?

 

Correct ... and the funny thing is that Trump was once one of them too!

 

I have not studied the video evidence and I'm not a forensics expert anyway

I lean toward it being deliberate murder

But there are acts of violence on both sides.

 

For example, on banknotes of $ 1, $ 20, $ 50, and $ 100, slaveholders are depicted. Why the liberal oligophrenics do not burn them?

 

I so agree.

Once I read excerpts from a paper on terrorism written by some Marine Corps General somewhere. I wish I had kept it.

He noted that a) terror is a natural reaction by humans and animals to some external threat, and b) a terrorist is one who takes advantage of and manipulates that natural reaction to achieve political goals.

 

Exactly.

What we should have, just to make the situation a but funnier, is a group of native americans shouting at the white supremacists and calling them immigrants and telling them to go home while the white supremacists are shouting at other people and telling them to go home.

Immigrants shouting at immigrants about immigration :0)

 

Hussein was a bad guy. Its just that a place as internally divided as Iraq with such high non-tax revenues meant a hard man would inevitably end up as leader. Iran or Saudi are much more uniform and so could reach more amenable accommodations with their populations despite the oil revenues.

 

Well not being funny, but many Native Americans died trying to fight off white immigrants.

They were just out-gunned and out-numbered.

I see parallels, rather than contradictions.

 

The Antifas has an interesting history, started in different areas of the world, Post World-War II.

Hitler started with only 45 people, before forming the Nazi Party. Mussolini started with 100 people, before forming his fascist regime. Most opposition to Hitler's rise to power, and his divisive Aryan policies were non-violent. Meanwhile the Nazis resorted to more and more violence. Unfortunately, the non-violence doesn't always work.

Thus the movements after World War II focused on a "violence if necessary" attitude towards fascism. Can you blame Europeans for adopting this attitude? In many historical cases, law enforcement have actually sided with the fascist movements. Peaceful solutions are great, and power is in the numbers, but sometimes it's not enough.

These small numbers that birthed these fascist regimes should be a reminder to all of us, how quickly these hate-filled groups can grasp control. Keep up the good work, Antifas.
https://antifascistnews.net/2017/02...a-brief-history-of-international-antifascism/

 

Absolute rubbish. The empowerment of the Freikorps was a direct reaction to the violent Spartacist uprising against the moderate SDP.

 

The Spartacist uprising was in 1919. I'm talking about the 1930s, as Hitler started assuming power. Inside Germany, there was not a lot of fighting against the Nazi Party. And actually, much of Germany viewed Hitler as something positive.

His foreign policy successes in the 1930s were to make him a very popular figure in Germany. As one German political opponent described:

“Everybody thought that there was some justification in Hitler’s demands. All Germans hated Versailles. Hitler tore up this hateful treaty and forced France to its knees…. people said, “he’s got courage to take risks”

http://www.historyhome.co.uk/europe/hitfor.htm

 

Unless you or a family member is Iraqi and lived there, I do not place much value on your conditioned view of Iraq under Hussein. The record is clear that he was our Fair-Haired Son in Mesopotamia until we needed to have a war there, at which time he was transitioned to Bad Guy, Public Enemy #1.

Some folks fell for it, but I did not.

 

Terry really should know the answer to his question. He is, after all, one of the architects of the current hate proliferating across the nation at his behest. The sickening truth here is that its been the design of liberals for several decades now to build in the perception of this kind of abject division. It's inherent in all of their policy, their identity politics, and their economic plans. Progressive 'merika' have been working towards these days for about as long as I can remember.

And while this isn't intended to be an exercise in blame, it's simply a recognition of what has gone before, and frankly, the drivers of it. Progressive 'merika' believe that there should be a revolution. They believe in their entitlement to all potential wealth, to all potential services demanded and delivered by an authoritarian government. Progressive 'merkia' simply want to dictate to the rest of us what we must do. How we must live, and the duration of their tolerance for us. Liberal/progressive 'merika' simply aren't interested in or tolerant of the rest of the folks in the nation, or frankly the architecture of our government.

 

Reading these replies provides a glimpse into the character of the right today. There is no substance to their claims only hate, vitriol, misinformation, fear and racism. Will there be a Civil War? I doubt it but it is possible that some areas become virtual war zones as these right wingers lash out at ghosts of their own nightmares. Trump will not lead us away from conflict, he is cheering it on every day. I hope he is impeached or resigns quickly. When he is gone, the moment of truth for his supporters will come and if they lash out violently, they will be crushed mercilessly. The right wing believes they are the majority, they are not. One day they may find out the hard way.

 

Funny. It's as if you have fundamentally ignored those who have posted and simply inserted your own bias and made a conclusion based on it. The truly funny part is the purposeful attempt to blame shift from the very fomenting of violence and hate that permeates the left today. I would point to the last sentence, "one day they may find out the hard way". Clearly, a threat. A threat made in heat, with malice. Pretty much demonstrates my point.

 

The truth is that the threat today comes from the right and that threat is one of violence. The left is not threatening America nor our institutions. We are simply reacting to what is being thrown at us. As for the potential for violence, it is real. The right wants to believe that the left is powerless and weak. They are wrong. My last sentence was not a threat, simply a warning. Trump made his intentions clear last night, the nation will not stand by idly while he and his supporters act in such vile and immoral ways. Don't expect kumbaya at this point, we are far beyond that now.

 

Of course they are. Been to a Milo speech? Berkeley? It's utter BS to ignore the violence of the left. It's culpable. Been to a G20 meeting? Seen the violence, the destruction, the rioting? How about a BLMs march? Fergeson ring a bell? How many examples do you require that establish the propensity of those on the left who actively engage in violence against out nation? If you discount by saying you're "reacting" its sophistry. Because the plain truth is that there isn't violence directed towards the left. But there is certainly violence from the left directed at the rest of us. You complain that you perceive yourself as "week and powerless" so that becomes your justification of the violence you ignore and tolerate on your behalf. It's ludicrous.

So, you bait and then switch to this new fantasy that you find things vile or immoral, and are thusly justified in your "resistance" bs. And now, you threaten yet more violence, as we diverge from "kumbaya"... How utterly predictable.

 

The terrorist has a radical different political opinion of the people he killed/tried to kill.

 

He was willing to attack Iran. Iran in the 80's just kicked out the American puppet regime who the west installed at the expense of their democracy.

 

Today the State Department has officially stopped all Russian people from travelling to the US. Ominous isn't it? Maybe we should start taking our heads out of the sand, and start looking around to see what's being done in our name... as well as what the future holds.

The reason for this is that Russia kicked out diplomats (CIA Agents), so as to equalize Washington's diplomatic staff to the same amount of personnel as the Russians have in the US. This was done in response by Russia to the theft of Russian property in the US by Obama, which Trump refused to return without getting some favors in return. Extortion anyone? Seems nothing is beneath us now?

Here are a few excerpts from an excellent article in the Duran:

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Above the half-witted mainstream media’s shrill noise about Charlottesville’s George Soros funded, statue-destroying, history-erasing, tattooed LGBT left-wing anarchists, we can hear something far more frightening. We hear the gargantuan growling curses of cannibal giants—the morally lobotomized military industrial complex—hiding in the darkness, scraping swords against stones and cracking knuckles, as they prepare to clash; and in the process of their reckless grappling, crush civilization and crumble landscapes. The question is what will trigger their fight?

The U.S. justification for this action, so we’re told, is because the Russian government had previously ordered U.S. State Department staff (CIA agents) to leave Russia in order to create a more equal number of Russians and Americans working in each others’ embassies. Of course, what is conveniently ignored is that in December 2016 President Obama, in violation of international law, seized the Russian Government’s summer house and property in the Washington DC metro area, and Trump has continued the crime by refusing to return the Russian property without getting some kind of “benefit” in return. Extortion anyone?

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The supreme law of the land is the Constitution, and it is clear: no federal or state law, statute, code, or policy can exist that violates or undermines any part of the Constitution. Anything that does, is unlawful and has no authority over citizens. The reason for America’s obscenely immoral Congress is because they have abandoned and hated the idea of truth animating all government laws and actions.

Let us always remember that truth is the union between a people and their government. Truth is the life force behind all law, and the U.S. Constitution; it is the substance of contracts; it is the light guiding man’s righteous claim and defense of his inalienable rights; it is the spirit of a responsible and benevolent self-government.

Truth is the soul of justice, the shape of love, and the sound of peace. But sadly the corruption of man, his lusts, and selfish pride reject this principle in exchange for the shifting sands of pleasure and popular opinion.

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By ignoring truth when making law, Congress destroys both. Without truth, there is no semblance of government authority, there is only the tyranny of DEEP STATE bureaucrats who channel fear to continue their power.