Thousands rally against Israel in Istanbul

BABOONS FOR 'RATIONALWIKI"

You can always find a source that is critical of someone else's source so why don't you try to write SOMETHING other than insults, self-promoting nonsense & whining about "conspiracy" sites (i.e. sources you don't like)

"RationalWiki Overrun By Baboons"
https://greylining.com/2012/08/20/rationalwiki-overrun-by-baboons/

EXCERPT "This is disheartening. It appears that RationalWiki has been overrun by baboons. Or at the very least, is performing nothing near due diligence in its editing oversight.
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Please, show, list and proof the correctness of your accusation against the Pals.

 

Don't be stupid. Next you'll asked for proof water is H2O. I don't have time for games with twits

 

Do we really need to adjudicate whether or not WhatReallyHappened.com is a conspiracy website?!
(ie, http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wrh_9-11_index.php#axzz4qnQNEeg1)

Are you that bat**** crazy and claiming it isn't?
You and 'Jazz' keep posting conspiracy crap.

This is a Clown show, with every post by Grau another wack job heaven.

http://www.fakenewscodex.com/fake-site/21st-century-wire/
21st Century Wire
Summary:
Genuinely unhinged “alternative news agency” that posts ridiculous conspiracy stories.

More information on 21st Century Wire:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/21st-century-wire/

Conspiracy-Pseudoscience
[......]
Notes# 2: 21st Century Wire is conspiracy and fake news with an extreme right bias. Additionally, their headlines are sensationalist and largely misleading.

21st Century Wire is a conspiracy and conjecture site run by Patrick Henningsen. Henningsen has ties to both Infowars and Alex Jones, also known for fake news and broad conspiracies. They also seem to have ties to, or at least to be pro Russian in much of their content. Specifically Russian Times (RT) the state run Russian news outlet. While they claim to present news from both the left and the right I saw no evidence of impartiality or opinions from the left in any of the stories I read.

Additionally, their stories are non-sourced, with no links except to their own stories, and are little more than loosely associated facts tied together broad conjecture and innuendo. When trying to research some of their claims myself I could find no corroboration from a credible source. Ironically, they are currently in a self proclaimed war against “Fake News”, and the site features several stories on the subject. These war on “fake news” stories, as with their other content, contain little fact and lots of conjecture, with links to their other stories instead of links to external sources."..."​

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'FourWinds10'?
Yet another typical Grau source/insane asylum!
"more storiesConspiracies here":

KAZAKHSTAN REPORTED BUILDING ALIEN EMBASSY FOR IMMINENT UFO ENVOYS
http://Fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/space/ufo_and_aliens_orbs/news.php?q=1242316786

Other 'FourWinds10' wonders:

ANTARCTICA 'GUARDIANS' RETALIATE AGAINST AMERICA WITH MASSIVE NEW ZEALAND EARTHQUAKE

(WHITEHOUSENEWS.COM) WHITEHOUSE TO SOON ANNOUNCE ALIENS' EXISTENCE ON EARTH; U.S. EXPERTS, SCIENTISTS SHARE EVIDENCE

America’s Alien Invasion — Beyond Black Special Access Program

UFO destroys Israeli weaponised satellite on the launch pad

DOUBLES CLONES AND ALIENS- THE BATTLE FOR WORLD SUPREMACY

etc, etc​

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You stated that 9/11 was an inside job. That's not a fact, it's an opinion.

You brought a headline in a newspaper as proof for an American backing of Erdogan. A headline in a newspaper is not proof of a fact.

1 sentence? Even less...but there are two of them that I could see.

"9/11 inside job" is less than one sentence, but its implications are staggering. The number of people involved would be so huge as to make keeping the secret an impossibility. The supposed goals - the theory is rather vague, but we know it's about oil and bombing the hell out of the Middle East for fun - stretch over half a world for a long period of time.

The headline in that not so bright newspaper is another less-than-one-sentence with staggering implications. A group formed of American successive governments secretly working from 1996 to 2003 to bring Erdogan to power in Turkey is your very large group of people conspiring over a long period of time.

Putin's pathetic attempts to bring the far right to power are so well known and documented, that I'm ashamed to bother google with such a trivial request.

Browse the forum...there are those who would link only to the likes of Sputnik or Duran...pay attention to what they say. There's a brand new thread about the benefits of bringing neo-Nazis to power in Germany.

Sorry to disappoint you (no, not really ) but hails are not expected here. Not the right season, I'd say.
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Enjoy shooting yourself in the leg, aren't you? That explains some of your answers...

Putin's attempt is not a secret exactly because such a conspiracy involving large groups of people over a long period of time can't remain a secret. You just made my point, thank you so much.

It's one thing to acknowledge that politicians all over the world are trying to influence other politicians all over the world, it's another to think that any group of politicians in a certain country has unlimited power over politicians and nations worldwide.

As above.

Reinforcements, owlie? That's not my game. It's a public forum, you know.

Yes, the topic is complex. I've spend hours searching google for stuff, including in a language I don't know. You could at least provide a link to the article in Aydinlik.

Oh please...if you were a secret agent tasked with a delicate mission, would you cheer and dance on the "crime scene" right after you complete your mission?

Proof? Or is it too much to ask?

Says the guy whose only proof is the photo of a headline in a socialist Turkish newspaper from last century. Did you expect me to learn Turkish, too? Maybe also read the complete works of Marx, Engels and Lenin. In Turkish.

I found an account on the damn article, in English. I'm not going to discuss it here at length unless you insist. Suffice to say that its claim that Erdogan and Abramowitz met in secret several times in a restaurant literally brightened my day.

This is what diplomats in foreign countries do: meet with politicians, talk to politicians, report back home.

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O.k., I found a super good website. You be the judge whether they tell the truth or not:

UN Reveals Israel’s Support for ISIS

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/02/13/un-reveals-israels-support-for-isis/

 

This isn't a tough one Adolph.
Many of us know it already.
Let me give you and your buddy a hint:
When you have to go to hate/conspiracy websites to scrape up something that agrees with you.. you're an anti-semite..
and you discredit yourself and your point.
Don't you know how to use google for anything but 'joos suck'?

BTW, how was your march in Charlottesville?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occidental_Observer

The Occidental Observer

is an American Far-right online publication that covers politics and society from a White Nationalist and Antisemitic perspective. Its mission statement is to "present original content touching on the themes of White identity, White interests, and the culture of the West." The publication was founded because, "overt expressions of White Identity and White interests (or European-American identity and interests) are rarely found among the peoples who founded these societies and who continue to make up the majority."[2] It is run by the Charles Martel Society.[3][4]

Kevin B. MacDonald, the retired American professor of psychology at California State University, Long Beach (CSULB), is the editor of the publication.[2] MacDonald is best known for his use of evolutionary theory to analyze Judaism as a "group evolutionary strategy".[5]
[.... lots more ...]​

 

Lady, Palestinians and Jews are the same people. Palestinians are not too much good people, believe me. They had deserved their challenges. And what do you want from Jews in this case? Semites kill semites.

 

Well, Fatah and the PA are secular.

Certainly extremists have gained popularity as the secular efforts have become less violent but have nonetheless failed to garner any meaningful traction with Israel / USA.

Anyone fighting for the Palestinian State would by definition be fighting for the imposition of the Palestinian Basic Law

http://www.palestinianbasiclaw.org/basic-law/2003-amended-basic-law

Theocracy: no, a presidential democracy under Article 2
Freedom of religion: guaranteed under Article 4 and 18, although Islam would be the official religion of the state.
Freedom of the press is guaranteed by Article 19, but there are practical difficulties getting that message to the rank and file of the security services.
Separation of powers: Article 2 Titles 3,4 and 5
Rights of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness: Title 2

I would like Israel to recognise the citizenship in Israel of the refugee Arab populations (known as the Palestinians).

 

Scusi signore
lt's imposible "to recognise" anything for these people


Jews are a very special nation, that never recognises something. Like Palestinians.

 

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I have the sense that this has all the trappings of a Trojan horse, and I would need a lot more evidence of their sincerity: Say an end to rocket attacks, terrorist attacks, a surrender of all claims to Jerusalem as their capital, a military guarantee of aid and protection against other Arab attacks, a free trade agreement, a military alliance, a ratified constitution similar to the western democracies,and an end to the opposition of Israel expansion, housing, and settlements. In other words, an unconditional surrender to Israel. Then, and only then will I take them seriously as thoughtful, rational, civilized men.

 

That would require Israel to recognize the Palestinian country, otherwise who would be surrendering?

But I take your point on sincerity and trust, however that must work both ways and Israel won't even stop colonising the disputed territory.

 

I will have a reply to this in detail for sure...

Just don't have time today....

That Hamas link is so cute by the way... I like it...

 

Show where I wrote the fraudulent post you attributed to me which actually directs readers to:

"Ukrainian kids, new victims of Israeli 'organ theft'"
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/fraud/israel/news.php?q=1260039345
EXCERPT "
An international Israeli conspiracy to kidnap children and harvest their organs is gathering momentum as another shocking story divulges Tel Aviv's plot to import Ukrainian children and harvest their organs.

The story brings to light the fact that Israel has brought some 25,000 Ukrainian children into the occupied entity over the past two years in order to harvest their organs. It cites a Ukrainian man's fruitless search for 15 children who had been adopted in Israel. The children had clearly been taken by Israeli medical centers, where they were used for 'spare parts'.


The account was unveiled five days ago by a Ukrainian philosophy professor and author, Vyacheslav Gudin, at a pseudo-academic conference in the Ukrainian capital, Kiev. Gudin told an estimated 300 attendees of the Kiev conference that it was essential that all Ukrainians be made aware of the genocide Israel was perpetrating."CONTINUED

 

That 30% doesn't play any roll in it, because:
The UNSC made resolution 446, saying the settlements are illegal, with 0% being opposed.
Even as late as UNSC resolution 2334, from 2016, it still was 0% opposed.
The European Union is against it with 0% Arab countries in it.
The UN General Assembly 66/225 only had 7 opposed.

Easy to say that about the entire world says Israel is in the wrong.

Uh no. My sources are sound. They all say the Jew ethnic cleansed over 700.000 Arabs and thieved their belongings.

Morris believes they failed to read his book with moral detachment, assuming that when he described Israeli actions as cruel or as atrocities, he was condemning them. In fact, he supports Israeli actions during 1948 such as the uprooting of 700,000 Palestinians. In a 2004 interview in Ha'aretz with Ari Shavit he stated:

A Jewish state would not have come into being without the uprooting of 700,000 Palestinians. Therefore it was necessary to uproot them. There was no choice but to expel that population. It was necessary to cleanse the hinterland and cleanse the border areas and cleanse the main roads. It was necessary to cleanse the villages from which our convoys and our settlements were fired on.


So Benny Morris, an Israeli Jew who supports the ethnic cleansing of +700,000 Arabs, is in your eyes a good impartial source.
Well, even he admits you Jews ethnic cleansed +700,000 Arabs.

 

Where do you come up with such wonderfully sounding sources like www.fourwinds10.com, and why should I bother to even open it?

 

Nobody did more ethnic cleansing and thieving of Palestinian belongings than the Arabs themselves. The venerable Yasser Arafat himself said what Israelis did to Palestinians pales in comparison with what Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Libya, Iraq and even their own brethren Jordan did to Palestinians. So, no need to single Israel out - everybody' doing it to Palestinians. Hey, how many gazillions of dollars do you think the splendorous Yasser Arafat thieved from Palestinians? Ask me, and I'll estimate it for you.

Poor, poor Palestinians... only the lazy does not **** them. Israelis, they actually feed, heal, give jobs and provide energy to Palestinians. And how Palestinians repay Israeli kindness? That's right, they stab them in the backs

 

Why would Israel want to recognize Palestine?

 

I'm sorry, it was JAZZ who cited "FRAUDULENT" website 'Fourwinds10'. But YOU did give it a 'Like.'
LOFL
It so difficult with two Crackpot Joo haters posting Clown site after Clown site.

But I did direct This one at YOU too, with Two of your own Clown sites. (WhatReallyHappened and 21stCenturyWire)
and you had NO Answer.

Nice try/dodge conspiracy guy.

 

Precisely. That's called ex post facto. They've passed hundreds of defamatory and after-the-fact resolutions/polls.
With... an automatic 30% agreeing with the "illegal" side.
That only, and again, proves MY point goofy!
You post popularity polls, I can and do discuss the truth of the matter

Grotesquely LYING again I see. YOUR source said only a fraction of that.
What unbelievable dishonesty.

No. You have NO background whatsoever in the conflict and it's long term debate
Morris started the whole BS Revisionist Narrative you believe in, with his book 'Birth of the Palestinian refugee problem', laying blame at Israel's feet.
Again, it was only Karsh who straightened him out and changed his tune sometime in the early 2000's to where he understands what Did happen in 1948 and why.
al-ooops!
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You missed my point.

I DID NOT write the Post "Taxonomy26" claimed I wrote nor did I cite "Four Winds" except to show what the article really said as opposed to what "Taxonomy26" claimed it said.

He / she / it has her panties in a bind, is obsessed with me & incapable of telling the truth, what can I say.

Meanwhile, MSM has an egregious pro Israel bias & I see nothing wrong with Independent Media:

“U.S. media coverage reveals a pro-Israel bias”
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2014/09/01/commentary/world-commentary/u-s-media-coverage-reveals-a-pro-israel-bias/#.WMLm5mafK_U

EXCERPT “Why does TV news look like a Netanyahu ad?” asked Chris McGreal of The Guardian on July 31, in his article on the “notoriously pro-Israel mainstream media in the U.S.”

In fact, three main dailies here from mid-July to mid-August easily gave the impression that U.S. President Barack Obama, not Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, was prosecuting a war against the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. The U.S. State Department continues to list the Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) as a terrorist organization.
Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal dispelled any doubt about which side it was on. On Aug. 2-3, its Review section gave a two-page spread — “In Defense of Zionism” — against an oversize photo of a flag-raising ceremony in Israel, in 1948.”CONTINUED

AND

“Journalists blast NY Times for pro-Israel bias and “grotesque” distortion of illegal occupation of Palestine”
http://www.salon.com/2016/05/26/journalists_blast_ny_times_for_grotesque_pro_israel_bias_and_distortion_of_illegal_occupation_of_palestine/

EXCERPT “The Times regularly fails to mention that the Palestinian territories have been illegally occupied by Israel since 1967. It often uses euphemistic language to describe Israel’s illegal activity, dubbing lands unlawfully seized by Israel in violation of international law “disputed” territory.

Rights activists have been so frustrated by the publication’s skewed reporting that, in February, activists from progressive Jewish human rights groups created a very convincing-looking fake edition of the Times to protest its coverage of Israel-Palestine.”CONTINUED

 

LIE OF OMISSION

Why did you post only PART of your source's review leaving out "Notes 1"

Of course the answer is obvious, it didn't support your assertion so you only posted the opinions of readers that concurred with your opinion.

Missing from "Taxonmy's" excerpt is the following. Please note the author's opinion: " I disagree with Fort Liberty that 21st Century is a publisher of fake news"

Home » 21st Century Wire
21st Century Wire
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/21st-century-wire/
EXCERPT "Notes: 21st Century Wire is an alternative news website that rejects the consensus of science regarding climate change and also promotes the conspiracy that mainstream media is publishing fake news. This source has also received an unproven claim by Snopes, which 21st Century Wire considers a questionable source. The website Fort Liberty has placed 21st Century Wire on it’s Fake News/Hoax list.
I disagree with Fort Liberty that 21st Century is a publisher of fake news.
21st Century employs somewhat sensational headlines and does provide sourcing to attempt to support claims. The primary issue is that 21st Century publishes some questionable stories (see examples above) that are embedded among legitimate stories they publish. This can mislead the reader. (D. Van Zandt 7/20/2016)"CONTINUED

So, I will continue to use sources I deem credible & you are welcome to spend every post howling & braying about "conspiracies" & "Joo hating"

 

I was too subtle: Just as it is insane to fight in America for an America, i.e., a constitutional republic based on the principles of individual rights--and only the thuggery BLM and the Nazist Alt Right, both lusting for the power to loot, rape, and murder, are doing so--it is just as insane for the Palestinians to fight for another state in the middle east that protects the rights of free association, the freedom of religion, freedom to run for office, the freedom to own land, etc., etc., etc., because they already have one, Israel.

If the Palestinians truly want to be free, they need to lay down their arms against Israel and pick them up under Israeli control, and turn them against the Islamic terrorists. In other words, don't fight for a Palestinian state, fight for the end of the Islamic states that are looting, raping, torturing, and murdering you daily. Understand? Unconditional surrender. In other words, the Palestinians must not fight against Israel, but for her. But, their actions belie their true intentions, and the rest is meaningless rhetoric meant to disarm the west, and so that the west surrenders Israel, as well as western civilization, to the eastern thugs of Islam.

For further thoughts on Israel, the alt right and BLM, as well as other Objectivists view points, please allow me to introduce Dr. Yaron Brook, the Executive Chairman of the Ayn Rand Institute.--https://ari.aynrand.org/experts/yaron-brook

As well as his show which enlightens the world with the Objectivist Philosophy,--http://www.theblaze.com/radio-shows/the-yaron-brook-show/

 

Because you recognize your reflection in the mirror.