When Islamic ‘occupation of Europe’ becomes a reality

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  1. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This thread has nothing to do with the Second Amendment. The topic is
    "When Islamic ‘occupation of Europe’ becomes a reality". Perhaps you should get acquainted with the topic.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...-Europe-ISIS-killings-Germany-dates-terrorism
     
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    I did not deny that Islam is somehow backward and the reason is also clear and is on core the missing reformation which we had in Christian religion in end of medieval ages with thanks to people like Luther and Calvin. Without them our Christian religion will be same way backward if not much more worse, because the age of enlightening would not have happened too!
    Also was in Christian religion always a somehow existing separation between state and church existing, even the Pope was Lord of complete middle Italy as own state, as where Bishops and Cardinals also head of states inside other European countries, no King and Emperor was also a high Cardinal or even head of the Christian religion and with the time the dispute between the Popes and the kings raised more and more. In Islam was this separation never given due to fact that most parts were under the lead of Ottoman Empire and Sultan with his deputy Caliphs and whatever, who were also often a religious leader too.

    Anyway ... here some Sures which correct translation...

    Sura 2: 62 (The cow, revealed to Medina): Christians and Jews have their reward with their God for their faith and their deeds.

    Sura 2, 109: People of the "People of Scripture" will try to dissuade Muslims from the true faith. That is why Muslims are to avoid them, but forgive them.

    Sura 2,256: There is no compulsion in religion.

    Sura 5, 82 (The table, Medina): Muslims should cherish Christians because of their faith and their humility.

    Please explain me if the terrorists follow and respect now their religion!
     
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    Seems you can't place your paranoia of Islamic occupation in context.

    Seems you are also unaware of the purpose and use of comparisons.

    Here's a quick primer: A comparison is not the subject of discussion, its used to make a point about the subject in question.

    Perhaps you should get acquainted with the use of your own language.
     
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    The vast majority of Muslims make the few good Muslims look bad.
     
  5. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The problem is that they're not accepting you. There are three ways a Third World nation can conquer a First World nation and that's through demographics, intimidation gained through terrorism, and propaganda - wherein they play the victim.

    Muslims are doing all three and Europeans don't have a counter strategy, they don't know how to respond, which is why they're losing.. They can only play defense and hope for the best.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...-Europe-ISIS-killings-Germany-dates-terrorism
     
  6. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your 'comparisons' are stupid. This is about terrorism in Europe and has nothing to do with the United States or it's gun laws.

    You're attempting a 'diversion', and there is no 'comparison'. If you can't intelligently discuss this topic don't involve yourself on the thread. Go to an appropriate thread or start one.
     
  7. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are Muslims who are good people but this is despite Islam, not because of it. Those who take Islam too seriously are not going to turn out well, and they are the ones creating terrorism and mayhem. The Koran breeds ignorance.

    Unfortunately there is no way of knowing, from the outside, who is a good Muslim and who is a bad Muslim.
     
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    Muslims are creating terrorism all over the world, Europeans didn't have to have open birders, and Muslims are also coming from Africa and Asia to enter Europe. Are you a Muslim yourself or was it a Muslim who told you it was all about Israel?

    You claim to be European but don't seem to know much about what's going on there.
     
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    this is what we call "bigoted hate speech".
     
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    Is this a serious post?
     
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    Do you live in Europe?
     
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    100%.

    the vast majority of Muslims are decent people, not terrorists
     
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    Where I live is none of your business.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you feel all religions should not be criticized or is it only Islam that should be protected from "bigoted hate speech".

    Do you ever see Muslims engaging in "bigoted hate speech"?
     
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    "There are Jews who are good people but this is despite Judaism, not because of it"

    -Hitler, 1931
     
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    all religions are open to criticism.

    attacking the majority of Muslims as terrorists, the majority of Jews as supremacists & thieves, is unacceptable hate speech.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you often quote Hitler to support your arguments?
     
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    Do you have an example of 'acceptable' hate speech?

    It is all 'acceptable' according the SCOTUS, btw.
     
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    only when it works to my debate advantage
     
  20. Fred C Dobbs

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    Then perhaps an adult debate board isn't the place for you.

    Muslims are creating terror throughout the world and it's an issue that must be openly addressed. To call members of a religion which is openly creating hatreds among its followers deserves condemnation and cannot be compared with any other religions, or political movements, of the day. The problem is Islam. http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/17/world/mapping-isis-attacks-around-the-world/index.html
     
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    A small tip. Do not quote Adolf Hitler to try and score debating points.
     
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    it worked didn't it?
     
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    I am 41 years old. I think this board is perfect for me.

    Now stop trolling.
     
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    #1. Most Muslims around the world and in the USA are not involved in terrorism.

    #2. It is against forum rules to attack groups, so take it easy.
     
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    I asked a simple question which you are obviously not able to answer without being rude. Congrats.
    You accuse others of being European but not knowing anything about Europe, so that leads to the assumption that you horribly rude person are probably from Europe since you claim to know so much about it.
    Pretty much everything you claim here about Europe is nothing but idiotic BS.
    There's no reason to be an idiot 24/7. Anger management might help.
     

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