What are black NFL players protesting?

Not a bad post. But I think Trump is effectively flushing out the unpatriotic - exposing them.

 

I want to know how come they don't protest themselves for being obnoxious jerks to cops. They do it to themselves .

 

They are "keeping it real".

 

True. Why don't ASIANS have a problem with the cops?

 

Kneeling during the anthem is not disrespecting the flag.

This is what disrespecting the flag looks like:

US Flag Code: Chapter 10.176C “The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.



US Flag Code: Chapter 10.176D “The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery.”


US Flag Code Chapter 10.176I “The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever.”




Double standards abound, especially when it involves a proud successful black man standing up for what he believes in.

 

lol those things glorify the flag.

if you don't think kneeling for the anthem is disrespectful you should tell the guys who are kneeling to stop, because that's why they are doing it.

 

From my point of view, its the violence, police brutality, and income disparity that happens in black communities. That's what Kaspernick was protesting for.

 

It may piss some people off to see people like themselves die not for their country, but BY their country and for absolutely no reason at all.

Do you get THAT side of it?

 

Not according to the US military they aren't.

http://www.usflag.org/uscode36.html

But hey what do they know? Its all about glorifying old glory, right?

So protest is disrespectful? No, they aren't doing it to be disrespectful, they are doing it to PROTEST. In this case protest the stupid remarks of a stupid president.


I do understand how some really sensitive types might interpret peaceful protest is as disrespect without consideration for cause or content. And that this disrespect increases exponentially when the protesters are politically, racial or ethnically different.

 

Nothing worse than an uppity black guy, is there? White nationalists are beside themselves on a national scale.
What's next, a Nazi march down Main Street?

 

Haven't we already been through that?

There have even been cases of burning the flag.

One of the things we fight for is free speech. And, nobody can claim we have some sort of spotless record in how we use our military.

In fact, Vietnam is a prime example of that problem.

 

Sorry but that cops had sign on for very dangerous careers and some had been killed as a result is no excuse or justifications for the killings of innocent men going about their lawful ways due to them having the 'wrong' skin color.

Just in the news lately was a young black man who had a closed small multi-tool in his hand and as a result some nerve cop killed him.

I would hate to have a black skin and therefore every time I was pull over by the police or gone out walking late at night I would need to have a reasonable fear of being killed by law enforcement.

 

I wonder if you are under the impression that only whites fought under the US flag?

That in our history black troops after returning from war was attacked by whites in the south and in one case when they dare to defend themselves the military hung many of them.

Now I do know that Trump had never serve in the military but I do not know off hand if any of those players kneeling serve in our military or not.

Do you know one way or the other?

 

Like one of my black coworker running from one of our buildings to the another in an attempt to meet a shipping deadline and was hit from behind without warning by two undercover cops as after all a running black man must be up to no good.

 

Too bad that also is not sarcasm.

 

Yeah, you're not part of the solution. You understand where that leaves you, right?

 

Tell that crap to Castille. Oh wait, you can't he's dead.

He was pulled over because he was black and had dreadlocks.

Despite the fact he had no criminal record at all he was stopped by police, on average, nearly once every month.

New York CITY!!!!!!!!

Weren't you paying attention to the news over the last few years? The NYPD agreed to stop most aspects of their "Stop and Frisk" program because most of the time the they had no probable cause to stop the person and no cause to search and, incidentally, most of the time the target had no drugs or weapons. Of course, a court finding that the city was in constant violation of people's rights "encouraged" the city to pursue this avenue.

Yeah, NYPD as an entity is no more or less racist than any other police department. It is built into the system.

 

So you think America is killing its own citizens for absolutely no reason at all?

Pathetic.

 

Flags don't usually get burned in front of a captive audience! Are you suggesting that if an NFL player were to burn an American flag on the sideline during the playing of the national anthem it should be considered acceptable?

Our military not having a spotless record is *NOT* the issue.

When we started in Vietnam it was for the *right* reason.

If you want to exercise your right to free speech then you must also be willing to accept the consequences of that speech. As the NFL loses viewers the left is going to start whining about all the American racists that don't want to watch black football players. Wait and see. It's already happening on CNN tonight!

 

Doesn't hurt the players a bit

 

I saw Freddie Gray being used as an example of this on CNN tonight. The problem is that Freddie Gray was *NOT* an innocent man going about his lawful ways. I saw Mike Brown being used as an example of such on MSNBC last night. The problem is that Mike Brown was *NOT* an innocent man going about his lawful ways.

In fact almost *all* of the blacks killed by the police over the past five years have not been innocent men going about their lawful business. In those cases where it was the case the cops have been tried, convicted, and sentenced!

Why don't you give the FULL story about this? The young man was also the person that called 911 and said that there was a man with a knife threatening people! He even left a suicide note. Have you *ever* owned a multi-tool? Everyone that I own *does* have a knife as one of the tools.

And knives *are* deadly weapons. A person with a knife can cover up to 12 feet and stab you before you can react and pull the trigger on the gun you already have out and aimed!

*THAT* is a fact that the police have to keep in mind every hour of every day if they want to go home to *their* families!

If you have a fear of being killed by law enforcement for just walking late at night then you are singularly uninformed. It just doesn't happen that way!

You are more likely to be killed by the police if you are white. When you consider the entire population of those who encounter the police, a higher percentage of whites are killed by police than are blacks.

The whole meme of blacks having to have a talk with their kids about encounters with the police and whites don't have to is a MYTH! I was sat down by my dad when I was 13 and started driving farm vehicles on the road and told how to act with the sheriff deputies and highway patrol. I was told to be respectful and to keep my hands in sight and still until instructed otherwise. All the other kids in my class got the very same lecture. And they were *all* white. No blacks in my high school class of 28 students!

 

You don't have a friggin clue, as they HIDE the stats.

 

Why would you wonder that? You are only showing *YOUR* biases with such a statement!

"in one case"? "hung many of them"? How did they hang "many of them" in "one case"?

You just identified yourself as spinning a yarn!

What difference does it make if they served? It is *still* disrespectful to kneel during the anthem! It is disrespectful to the flag, to what the flag stands for, and to those who have served and even died for the flag and what it stands for!

The NFL would not let the Dallas Cowboys wear a small decal on their helmets to honor the five policemen killed in Dallas. The NFL would not let a player wear cleats he designed to honor those who died in 9/11 for even one game.

But the NFL celebrates players disrespecting the flag, what the flag stands for, and the military.

This isn't a protest over principle. This is a tantrum over Trump being President! Remember, Treyvon Martin, Freddie Gray, Mike Brown and all the rest were killed while Obama was President. And yet not one NFL player protested on the sideline when these killings were FRESH in everyone's mind!

 

He was stopped because he looked like a robbery suspect. A suspect that was also black! There was no racial profiling in this case.

How do *YOU* know that most of the time they had no probable cause?

According to the NY Post and the NY Daily News, gun crimes went up dramatically after stop and frisk was ended. They are *still* going up.

How high does the murder rate have to get in NYC before something is done? We already know what the liberals think about Chicago - the killing fields there are just fine and require nothing be done. Of course it's most blacks killing blacks so the Democrats don't really care!

And of course the majority minority NYPD is racist. Do you know how stupid that sounds?

 

Really? When people stop going to the games or watching on TV the sponsors *will* have something to say about it. As less and less money comes in from the sponsors the NFL *will* have something to say about it. And as less money comes in from the games and fans the owners *will* have something to say about it. And as those players who don't hate America see their pay start to take a hit *they* will have something to say about it.

Right now the political hatred of Trump overrides any monetary concerns. That simply won't be the case a year from now if all this idiocy by the players continues!