How is it possible that Trump got elected?

Kazakhstan is not Russia. I despise Russia....and American libs/progs

 

Obama wins the popular vote.

 

Still not how elections are run but then, I suspect you know this but are just still whining because you were told Hillary was a lock.

 

What, exactly?

 

They've at least been fighting in DC for decades, trying to do things. He's done exactly zero in his life for the common man. Zero.

 

LOL first Clinton start the nation paying down the nation debt and then Bush 2 and the damn Republic congress removed almost all the safeguards that had been in place for the most part since the end of the great depression and the banks and other economic players released from such safeguards beginning floating the world with trillions of dollars of worthless junk bonds.

Only by the fed supporting the banks with unlimited supply of money and the government offering of loans to major parts of the economic such as auto industry save us from another great depression.

To sum up it was the damn republicans who almost wreak the nation and once more it was democrats who save us.

 

You write about Trump as though he was the most flawed candidate out there.

You forget that Trump ran against a field of 16 other candidates to win the Republican nomination
You forget that the Democrats rigged their primaries so that only Hillary could win

A point that most voters picked up on, but that you are blind to, is that only one candidate stood up for the American people and the American dream. Only one candidate promised to close the borders and bring jobs back to our country. Only one candidate vowed to negate trade treaties that favored other countries over our own. Only one candidate promised to have a foreign policy rooted in National Self Interest. Only one candidate promised to Make America Great Again.That candidate is now President.

A point that most voters picked up on, but that you are blind to, in the 2016 election cycle the Democrat Party proved itself to be the party of hate:
It attracted and united:
-- poor people who hate rich people
-- rich people who hate poor people
-- black people who hate white people
-- jewish people who hate white people
-- hispanic people who hate white people
-- gay people who hate straight people
-- feminists who hate men
-- Muslims who hate kafir
-- Muslims who hate Christians
-- Muslims who hate gays
-- athiests who hate Christians
-- socialists who hate capitalists
-- environmentalists who hate the internal combustion engine
-- college kids who hate their parents.
And Hillary represented all of them.

And you can't figure out how Trump became President

 

What have the Democrats proposed? What have they done for everyday citizens in the past couple of decades? Obamacare covers about 20 million people or about 1/16th of the population, and it has not lowered costs or premiums. And they tried to coronate Hillary Clinton. So just exactly what have Democrats done for everyday Americans in the past couple of decades?

Frankly, I don't think either party has done much for everyday people, but I can think of a lot of things they've done to them.

My point, of course, is to Sandy Shanks. He wonders why Trump got elected. The answer to that question is not complicated. And in his OP, he lists every possible worn out excuse there is except the obvious one.

 

What have they been fighting for?

 

I agree with you to some extent. All I am saying is that Trump had a lot of help, and his supporters picked the wrong guy to cure the ills you mentioned.

Trump had no experience in governance, none at all in foreign relations. He never served in the military, so his supporters picked a Commander-in-Chief with no military experience. As a consequence he acts like a wrecking ball in a china closet, and he can't keep his damn mouth shut. He creates controversy out of thin air with his moronic tweets.

All I'm saying is, that wasn't very bright.

 

I do understand and I explained it in the OP you didn't take issue with. Do you read it? If so, what are you wondering about. I made it pretty clear.

As for wiping the floor with career politicians, what he is actually doing is attacking members of his own party. The Democrats are already the opposition party. By warring against his own party, Trump has foolishly cut himself off from the organization he needs to pass his agenda. That is remarkably stupid. It also explains why, in ten months, he has yet to sign any significant legislation.

You consider that bright. I consider it dumb.

 

You and Sandy Shanks and millions of others still have no clue why Trump was elected.

 

Yep, down with the swamp on both sides of the aisle, shame on liberal/progressive supporters and enablers of the swamp.

 

What Trump is doing is wiping the floor with the "never-Trump" faction of the Republican party.

I don't think you understand that the Republican Party is undergoing a transition as it becomes the party of FDR and JFK which the Democrats have abandoned.

The old line open borders, globalist Republicans are becoming extinct as the new breed moves in and takes over. I'm waiting for December 12th to see how Roy Moore does - one of us will be crowing - and I don't think it will be you.

 

Exactly. During the campaign, Trump told these dense liberal ignoramuses 100 times about a major political realignment that he is bringing, they ignored it at their own peril and even their humiliating and devastating loss did not seem to teach them anything. Duh

 

Regardless of her unflattering makeover by conservative media, Hillary was still seen by the majority as the lesser of two evils; however, a plethora of voters, unwilling to make that choice, voted for independents or didn't vote at all.

OTOH, I believe that Trump voters to a large extent were self-serving ethical agnostics who believed that the end justifies the means as a path to self-gratification or achievement of their own goals (along with their clueless lackeys). . . . Not a likely path towards MAGA.

 

Clinton had nothing to do with it. That was all Congress and the internet bubble.

Obama fixed nothing.

Less than a year into the Trump presidency and every financial and employment metric is skyrocketing.

 

Easy, the Democrats nominate Hillary Clinton. About the only Democrat, living or dead that stood a chance of losing to him. Then to make matters worst, Hillary let Trump out work and out campaign her. From 1 Sep through 8 Nov Trump made 116 campaign visits/stops to Hillary's 71 and some of those 71 were fund raisers in deep blue California and New York. Hillary also took several days off the campaign Trail while Trump took none. I'm sure any other Democrat who might have been nominate wouldn't have allowed Trump to out work and out campaign them like Hillary did. Perhaps Hillary thought she was next in line to be president and that was enough. That she really didn't have to work at it.

Trump supporters, a lot fewer than Hillary's. Trump energized them, they were willing to go to the four corners of the earth for him. enthusiasm abounded among Trump supporters. Hillary's were more ho hum. There was a genuine lack of enthusiasm among her supporters. Of course her supporters thought she would win easily. Then too, strategy. Clinton wanted to run up the score. Get more electoral votes than Obama did. She put in great effort and resources into trying to win Georgia, Arizona and Utah while not paying much attention to her own backyard. Her blue wall states of Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania. Trump's strategy, the electoral college map. I'm also sure that a different nominee other than Clinton would have certainly paid more attention to the blue wall states. There are lots and lots of more reasons why Hillary lost.

Clinton lost because of Clinton and her inept, lackadaisical campaign. Just adding some more info to yours.

 

Nice analysis, thank you. The only problem is the polls tightened up after Comey re-opened the investigation. That alone may have caused Clinton's defeat because she lost her huge edge in the last week.

The reason I blame apathy is because 90 millions Americans didn't want to make a decision between two bad choices. So, they stayed home. The majority of Americans are paying the price for that apathy.

It can also be argued that the Democratic Party is responsible for Trump. They nominated Clinton.

Like I said, Trump had a lot of help, the lucky bastard.

 

If that was true, Clinton would have never been your party's nominee.

When we know what they did, and everyone now trying to distance themselves were involved in it, there is no moral high ground for any democrat.

Poor judgement by democrats is why North Korea and now Iran will be pointing nuclear weapons at us.

And yes, we're suffering the results of the election. A booming economy and metrics being surpassed that have been stagnant for decades.

 

She lost because she had everyone she thought mattered on her side. The media, the DNC, the White House, all the super pacs, celebrities.....she felt she didn't need the peasants.

They would be told who to vote for, and they would comply.

Unfortunately for her, there are still some people in the US that don't subscribe to their group think.

 

Most likely a liberal one!

Yes, that could be the result of the horrible decision the GOP made by naming Trump as their candidate. The GOP has been hijacked by extremists. Here they are trying to pass a bill that will add at a minimum of 1.5 trillion dollars to the National Debt. One impartial body has put the cost at 2.2 trillion. Trump Republicans voted for chaos in Washington. They call it, "draining the swamp." They want to remove all leadership in Washington. Geez! They have admitted it on this and many other threads. Trumpians are proud of it.

Yes, the backlash will be liberal. It has started already with the elections earlier this month. Can you imagine Alabama electing a Democratic Senator? Lordy!

 

Sure. Liberals are all fools.

 

See, that is another problem the GOP has. Trump Republicans are intelligence challenged. In the OP I discussed "true conservatism." In other posts I have criticized a bill currently being debated in Congress that will add trillions to the National Debt, clearly a major concern for true conservatives, unlike Trump Republicans who are not Republicans and not conservatives.

And this clown thinks Clinton belonged to my party??? Wheee!

 

Wow - That's an enthusiastic wet dream. You point to Democrats being elected in deep blue states that did not carry Trump as though their elections mean something on the national level.

Liberalism has morphed into something that can only be described as self-nihilation while the New Republicans take over as the working mans party.

I don't see the Democrats gaining any electoral ground - and they might lose more voters in borderline states such as New Hampshire, Nevada, Minnesota and Maine