Britain Is Bleeding

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  1. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    This is interesting. Refer me to one empirical source that agrees with your overall opinion. I keep asking folk on this sub-forum and they hide. You seen to celebrate data, so I'm sure you're come through!
     
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    The FBI UCR and the DOJ have homicide/violent crime data adjusted to race/ethnicity. Only recently did the FBI have Hispanics as a separate category as they lumped these in the "White" column. Here is what interesting. In reporting violent crime, there's no category for sexual orientation. If you really drilled down into the data you'll find out what a lot of us know. That protected, gentle, noble, gay class is actually pretty violent and kill/assault each other in significant numbers.
     
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    Don't be vague now. Provide a published research paper that agrees with your position. I've been trying for yonks to get someone else to do so, so please don't let me down.
     
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    Actually I haven't presented a position. As far as the gay population, sexual orientation is not recorded in violent crime, therefore we don't really know. We just have to rely on LOL anecdotal data.
    BTW did you know that Chicago recorded multiple homicides as a single event in the "kill" column? Funny how you can manipulate the data.
     
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    Please do and support it with published research paper. No need to tap dance
     
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    So you discount the FBI UCR and DOJ papers. BTW here's another way that libs "adjust" the homicide data. Chicago really leads the way. If you manage to survive a shooting but die in the hospital the ME will list the CoD as something else other than GSW. Then there are the "indeterminate" causes of death. In Chicago they've actually had the nerve to list a dismembered skeleton as such. Simply amazing.
     
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    You haven't provided a published research paper. Please do so. Its a simple request
     
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    He doesn't do that. You are just supposed to trust him. LOL
     
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    You'll have to name to topic first. Research is usually specific and not general.
     
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    Anything relevant to the thread one would suppose? Good luck!
     
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    Specifics don't seem to be your strong suite. Besides anything in the pro-gun category would be swiftly discounted and the authors belittled.
     
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    I'm happy for you to show some free spirit and choose anything relevant to the thread. Don't keep delaying. Its not dandy
     
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    Britain is bleeding doesn't seem like a strong place to start. Why not start another thread where is at least some degree of applicability? You've already ignored the FBI UCR and DOJ.
     
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    You're still not referring to an empirical analysis. Provide the reference and stop delaying. Rationality demands it
     
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    FBI UCR and DOJ are hard stats, not empiric data. A truly rational person would define the limits of his argument.
     
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    Basic fail there I'm afraid. This isn't about raw data. That can only deliver spurious conclusion based on simple correlation. This is about empirical analysis capable of isolating gun effects, where raw data is used to test hypothesis.

    Its a shame so few pro-gunners are aware of the nature of empirical research. Are we to conclude that you won't refer to one empirical publication on the subject?
     
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    The DOJ and FBI UCR are not raw data. Please provide a specific topic to discuss.
     
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    I don't think you're going anywhere with this guy. He can't see the forest because of the trees, nor does he want to.
     
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    Weird! What's it like there in the pretend Eig
    It might be quicker to take the vote away from the insane in the USA, or bring in an efficient NHS to cure the weirdoes.
     
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    From the beginning of our having the police at all there was a vast and totally sensible detestation of letting them strut around armed. It is a basic feature of democracy.
     
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    Answer the question as it was presented to yourself, rather than yammering on about a completely unrelated topic. Was the rate significantly higher prior to the handgun prohibition? Or has it remained largely unchanged regardless of such?
     
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    He will not answer honestly.
    It would be better to ask a gun club member for honest answers.

    England had an N.R.A. before the U.S. did,
    The shoots at Bisley a long honored tradition.
    England established the rules for shooting competitions and proof testing firearms and many other important firearms fundamentals as well as the best rifles and shotguns.

    Now there are posters here that would re-write history and deny that England founded the basis for firearms.
     
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    Actually liberals are working hard to make sure felons can vote, I'm sure the "let the criminally insane vote" bill is sitting on Moonbeams desk right now.
     
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    Which one was doubled? There are 8 of them.
     
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