Charles Manson is rotting in hell

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  1. FreedomSeeker

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    You couldn't BE more wrong as many many verses in the barbaric Bible say that non-believers (and no matter how ethical they might be) are going to burn, burn, and burn some more:
    John 14:6: Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me"
    Acts 4:12, 2 Thessalonians 1:1-10, John 3:18, John 10:27-28, Matthew 10:32, Luke 12:8, John 5:2, John 3:36, John 6:47, Acts 16:31, Romans 10:9, Revelation 19:20, 20:10,14-15, 21:8, John 15:6: Jesus said “Unless a person remains united with me, he is thrown away like a branch and dries up. Such branches are gathered and thrown into the fire, where they are burned up."
     
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    Jesus was a liar, he said that he'd return w/in the lifetimes of the people who were alive at that time. Don't worship a liar, you're better than that.
     
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    The progressive left is socially-void because they hate authority and love those with the mentality of the Joker. It's a sad, scary, ideology.
     
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    No, he said this generation shall not pass away until all these things be fulfilled. However, He was describing the generation that he was about to create, the generation that was forgiven of their sins through Jesus Christ (himself). The generation he had created from dying on that cross.
     
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    Not looking good then for abortion doctors and Planned Parethood.
     
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    This jesus character is a loooooong dead cult leader, jrr.

    He ain't comin' back anywhere ... just like every other dead man...
     
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    It indeed requires "faith" alone. And nothing including you is going to shake that "faith". No disrespect, and I respect your opinion.
     
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    Yes ... I remember Bush slaughtering all of those people at the baseball game.

    Oh, wait. That didn't happen?
     
  9. jrr777

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    I read an interesting testimony of the creation of Islam. The testimony comes from Alberta Rivera. Check this out! Let me know what you think?

    https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican33.htm
     
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    And if he accepted Jesus on his deathbed and asked his forgiveness he would have went right to heaven, using typical Christian Theology.
     
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    Not at all. Have you ever heard the word "sorry", yet you knew they was not. There is a difference in asking for forgiveness, and actually meaning it. To go around killing people as you ask for forgiveness, is to never be heard, for you never meant it in the first place. It is our Father in heaven who knows what is in the heart, he knows when one means it.

    For you to claim what you have, is absurd and absolutely, "wrong".
     
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    I mean if he meant it or this what if all this time he was really mentally ill and it wasn't treated properly all his life, a possibility a psychopath if intervene with early enough can learn to live in normal society even without a conscious ability to do so in that case would the Catholic Church consider the insane to have volition so wouldn't he likely go to heaven? Would god expect an adult with the mind of a six year old to be mature enough to be sent to hell even if they died of old age?

    You can't have this all ways if he was a sociopath and unable to form a moral core belief system then he is unable to choose to be moral or act immorally but would rather be a dog or beast who could learn if started young to not bite and behave around others and that is the best one could hope for.
     
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    Are you serious. He didn't go around telling everybody what he was doing, because he knew it was wrong, thus up until he got caught, he hid it.
     
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    For the bazelenth time..... enough with the religious stuff.
     
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    #triggered
     
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    Definitely fit the profile of a TRUMP VOTER.

    Sad, but TRUE. :salute:
     
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    Yes, so? Are you here to tell me a pious Hindu woman in Sri Lanka who never heard the word of Jesus, much less teachings about him, --- that her good works and kindness for all those around her whole life, that will not be acknowledged by God? Are you telling me she cannot come to Jesus and He will judge her just as He judges all of mankind and will not save her from hell? Of course you probably have no thought of a purgatory in your theology which really warps or confuses the whole discussion for those who think there is only heaven or hell.

    This hardly proves your case. What does "united with me" infer, specifically? Neither you nor I nor anyone else can say with certainty. So I am not sure how you can be so bold.

    Go read Matthew 25:31-46, the Last Judgment. Come back to me and tell us with any certainty in the least about who is in heaven and who is in hell. It surely does not follow the Martin Luther, "sola fide" decree, that much seems true.
     
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    Sociopaths tend to have no ability if truly so to act in moral ways since your not born with that morality normally given by evolution to social animals like us and taught further by adults such as parents, add in your average serial killer who is a psychopath is brilliantly able to move among humans like any true predator. I'm just saying if he was truly unable to be rationally to a high level in a way most humans can due to a moral core most have then could he be deemed unfit of mind and therefore go to heaven on the grounds he is mentally so sick as to be not culpable of blame? Would you blame a dog with violent rabies for biting people and punish it like you would a bad dog if it bit someone or deem it sick and put it down and blame the illness its the same thing using psychology. The man might have been a mad dog not trained to act in society in a way to mimic moral behavior so therefore he acted according to is nature one fundamentally unable to be moral. And even a wild dog if it killed a man will avoid the hunters and a human is far more intelligent a predator.
     
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    Anybody that does not believe in Jesus Christ, will be bundled up with the tares and burned. They will be right there with Manson.
     
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    ::: I role my head :::
     
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    So true - what a barbaric religion - its not about morality, but rather about loyalty/submission....pathetic.
     
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    the death penalty is a get out of jail free card, glad he did his time, hope he learned from it and he lives his next life better then this one
     
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    You are saying that I am no better than Manson.....have you no shame?

    PS unlike Manson I have not murdered anybody (although I did "murder it" last time I played Call of Duty.)

    PSPS ok, Charlie "didn't kill nobody", technically (just inspired/directed it, apparently.)
     
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    he was a Christian back then, so assume he was still
     
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    I would not doubt he supported Trump
     
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