What has Trump done wrong?

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  1. Vet1966

    Vet1966 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The economy is booming
    The deep state is being dismantled
    America is regaining control of its borders and its future
    There has been one small terrorist attack as a Muslim Terrorist ran down joggers in New York
    The only places that crime continues to rule are those cities run by Democrats - the remainder of the country is safe and secure
    Taxes are being cut
    Health Care is slowly being brought back up to its pre-Obama state of median costs and sufficient care.

    Yet the left wingers continue to cry about what a terrible man Trump is.

    I don't get it!
     
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    Not a damn thing.

    Easily the best president in over 100 years.
     
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    The country is set for the greatest prosperity surge in it's history, thanks to Trump. No thanks to Obama who stymied our country for 8 years. But there are those who will reap the rewards and still want to remove Trump. Some folks just have to bite the hand that feeds them.
     
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    Jesus...
    What stymied the country was Republicans screaming about the debt.

    Remember sequestration?

    Remember the fight against the Stimulus?

    Remember the government shut down?

    Newsflash...they did all of that just so they could now bitch about it...

    Notice they all of a sudden don't care about the debt (adding 1.5 trillion to the debt to fund their tax cut for the rich)
     
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  5. GoogleMurrayBookchin

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    i'll believe anything's better when i see anything get better. i have not, for the record, seen anything stop being awful for a minute, in a solidly republican state
     
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    CNN reports, "Former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty Friday to lying to the FBI about conversations with Russia's ambassador and disclosed that he is cooperating with the special counsel's office.

    "Flynn is the first person inside President Donald Trump's administration to be reached by special counsel Robert Mueller's probe. The developments are a sign that the investigation is intensifying, and details revealed Friday provide the clearest picture yet of coordination between Flynn and other Trump advisers in their contact with Russian officials to influence international policy and undermine the President."

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/01/politics/michael-flynn-charged/index.html

    Flynn did not do this on his own. It is reasonable to assume Trump ordered Flynn to make a deal with the Russians. Flynn couldn't make a deal for Trump. Only Trump can make a deal for Trump. Only Trump could authorize a deal between himself and Putin. The deal Trump made was illegal.

    Trump in a tweet on Saturday said he fired Flynn because Flynn had lied to the FBI. That means Trump knew that Flynn had lied to the FBI when he asked FBI Director James Comey to drop his inquiry into Flynn and then fired Comey when he failed to do so. That is obstruction of justice.

    Trump thinks he is above the law. His lawyer, John Dowd, said this, The "President cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under [the Constitution's Article II] and has every right to express his view of any case."

    There is no clearer danger than that.

    Always be careful what you ask.
     
  7. Vet1966

    Vet1966 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Blah, blah, blah - same old crap you post all of the time - CNN and the others quoting their super secret sources that turn out to be lies -

    So you agree that everything I said in the OP is accurate
     
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    The economy is much stronger under Trump and the political establishment is stressed and threatened by him - progress.

    Nevertheless, Trump has not been able to significantly reduce the size and power of government.
    Credible solutions to most of the problems plaguing our nation are not being proposed by any of our opinion leaders.
    The next election may change that - or not.
     
  9. Bow To The Robots

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    You obviously don’t have a 401(k).
     
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    Yawn. Every president thinks he is above the law.
     
  11. Stevew

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    Just in the last couple days I decided to start a new folder in my computer of news stories showing Trump winning. I'll eventually start filling it up with previous news stories and keep it current.

    2017-12-04_Supreme Court allows full enforcement of Trump travel ban

    2017-12-04_Trump begins to take back federal lands, gives to states

    WINNING!

    Steve
     
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    I'd go Coolidge. Taft if you're willing to stretch it a few years.
     
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    We could of used all that money on the Unaffordable Care Act to get people jobs and real lives.

    I speculate the stimulus package and the "shovel ready jobs" was actually just a big crony scheme.
     
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    None of that makes any sense.

    Money from the affordable care act?

    You mean premiums that other people paid? You want to take that away from them and STILL not give them healthcare insurance?
     
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    While your highly deluded perceptions of events is one thing, there is far more:

    Trump has violated the essence of what it means to be American. We have always aspired to the occupy the high road and do the right thing, until trump and his cult came along. Now we had blood-thirsty crowds cheering for extreme torture and the mass murder of innocent people. He has attacked and seeks to undermine the foundations of liberty - the free press, the judicial system and judges, the intelligence community, as well as the truth, at every turn.

    He has violated every code of decency and class. He appeals to hate and racism, dog whistles the Nazis and KKK, incites violence and even offered to pay the bills. The only praise he offers is for a tyrant who uses death squads for law enforcement, and an unfriendly former KGB agent who tampered with the election. He refuses to act and lead to protect the democratic process and elections. And the only people he hadn't dissed until now were Putin and Flynn.

    He is a thug who was never worthy of holding office. And his election is a huge sign that America has been reduced to the lowest common denominators - hate, fear, racism, prejudice, and even claims of genetic superiority.

    That you can all overlook this is the stuff of Nazi German.

    Dictators make trains run on time.
     
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    “Flynn’s a good guy, you should let him go.” Yeah, asking your FBI director to drop a investigation into your national security adviser is attempted obstruction of justice. Clear as daylight.

    And Trump did it not even a full month into office.

    We only have control of our border because of scare tactics, and refusal to sensibly revise outdated immigration law (hint, it doesn’t include open borders).

    Two failed healthcare measures and a tax bill Republicans are pushing past like Dems did with Obamacare. No hearings st all. If you are making more than $75k a year, and you’re b”tching about taxes being too high, you’ve failed to adjust, not the government.
     
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    lol.............I think someone bet on Hillary in Vegas. Heavy. :grin: Will you help him look for his ball?



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    Thanks for the insight, Comrade. Sounds as if those are sour grapes. SSI for wage earners is 7,65%, 15.3% for those self employed not incorporated. And that's just for starters, that's not Federal income taxes. Then you get soaked for another 15-20% or so, depending on if you are married and how many yard apes you have to raise. If you live in an ass hat state like NY or CA, we will tack on another 10% or so of state income taxes. Oh and don't forget the property taxes and sales taxes you get raped for. What's amusing is if you make around 40-50k with the same situation you escape the federal and state charade of income taxes. Yeah, that's fair. And you wonder why working people want to guillotine the left. :roflol:
     
  19. Canell

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    Read my lips: n-e-o-l-i-b-e-r-a-l-s

    :razz:
     
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    I happen to lean republican, but here are a few things I disagree or don’t like with Trump. Mostly, on a scal of 1-10 with 10 being extremely happy, I am a 7 on Trump.

    -his attack on Syria after the supposed chem attack without, at the time, being sure who was at fault.
    -he has not done as much as he promised for the military and veteran, he is doing alright but not what he promised.
    -healthcare was a disaster
    -i love that he tweets, but he is an idiot sometimes. Like retweeting false videos.
    -his endorsement of Roy Moore is a mistake, should have stayed neutral stayed out of it
     
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    You give Trump credit for a healthy economy that was healthy when he took over, OK, I get that considering the last Republican president manage to tank the healthy economy he was handed.

    What deep state is being dismantled? Seems to be most of the dismantling is his administration. How many have resigned or been pushed out? 2 already convicted of crimes which must be a record for the first year of a president.

    Regaining control of it's borders? Again, the trend begun by Obama is continuing unlike his predecessor that trended upward. As to the bull about his keeping out terrorists how many terrorist attacks by foreigners were committed during the Obama years? Oh, you mean his short sited racist policies? Yeah, those will come back to bite. If I were to want to attack the US the easiest way would be to train to work as a waiter in a country club and sign up for a Trump properties.

    The ACA is still in effect, if health care is coming up then it is because it is working.

    But back to your original query. What has he done wrong? The biggest error for the future of America of his and his colleagues in congress is the dumbing of America. Obviously he is not an eloquent speaker that inspires but rather incites. His attacks on the press discourage people from seeking more diverse information. It's not by accident that Disney wants to acquire FOX, they both unabashedly deal in fantasy. They want to tax college scholarships which will drive worthy students away from advanced degrees yet oddly enough allow tax deductions to those parents that have the money to pay for their children's Phds. Foreign students already make up a significant percentage of student enrollments, in 20 years will we see only foreign students in our grad schools? Why do foreign countries put so much higher value on education than the US? Clearly because they know that robotics will replace humans in the future for many mundane tasks and the jobs that make money will require much more than a high school education. They want to subsidize for profit schools at the expense of public ones. He and his cohorts have made a constant attack on the intelligence and education of Americans, particularly poor ones no matter their merit, which will mean down the road the Americans will be the servants of the world instead of the leaders of the world.
     
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    You seriously need to stop believing everything the lying liberal media tells you. It's very likely you won't know what hit you when dems lose yet another election in 2018/2020.

    SURPRISE! again.

    Steve


     
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    I don't put much credence in the concept that President's wave a wand and magically the economy booms. The Left constantly brags about Bill Clinton's economy and how GW Bush wrecked it, but like now, there were a lot of factors in play then that take years to come to fruition.
     

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