Dems are counting on impeachment

Yawn. I remember hundreds of your 2016 posts, all of them without an exception sounding exactly like this one. Wasn't Trump going, according to your exactly the same reasoning, not just lose but lose bigly and drown the entire republican party? How did that work out? LOL I suppose it's really impossible to teach an old dog new tricks.

 

This is good analysis..... I want to point out a seat where a Rep will be running for re-election that I feel strongly will finally go Dem.... My district, District 10 in No. Virginia... Includes Fairfax and Loudoun counties, 2 populated blue counties...

We've gone Rep forever (currently Barbara Comstock), but the margins are dropping every year... (PCT voting for Rep candidate)....

2010 - 62.9
2012 - 58.4
2014 - 56.5
2016 - 52.7

BUT recently
2016 Pres - Clinton 52.2/Trump 42.2
2017 Gov - Northam 56.6/Gillespie 43.3

I know it's only 1 seat, but that's how it's done... 1 at a time....

 

Trump barely squeaked into office on a technicality. Since then his and your campaigning for 2020 has consisted mainly of jumping up and down while shouting "**** you, we won," and going on and on about how anyone without their own paid up and non-government subsidized insurance will soon die under a bridge and all the muslims, hispanics and any other minority had better pack up and leave before you "deport" them. Somehow, I have to think that an Electoral College "victory" doesn't indicate that the USA has become the Fourth Reich, but we shall see.

 

Oh please no one wants to read that ****! I'm trying to get through this thread and I cant get those few seconds of my life back.

Grammar Nazis ruin the entire damn forum!

 

No thats not ****ing vague. Crimes and Misdemeanors are real things with real definitions even then.

 

Ah, but in 2018 there will be no Hillary Clinton to save the GOP. If you remember my exact sayings, I said if Trump wins it will because the democrats nominate Clinton and if Clinton wins it will be because the republicans nominated Trump. I had no use for either one and I still don't. I voted against both by voting third party.

Sure I thought Clinton would win, but never said it would be big. I did predict her winning in fact. I didn't care who won, I went to bed around 10PM on election night knowing whomever won, it would be very bad for this country.

 

Exactly. We had a special election here in Georgia this year, CD-6. A heavily Republican district where the GOP candidate usually gets 60% plus of the vote. Handel, the Republican received only 52%. Normally that district goes to the Republican by 20-25 points. It went GOP this year by 3 points. What I also find interesting is that Trump won Georgia with 51% of the vote, but his approval rating in Georgia now is at 43% favorable, 50% unfavorable. How that plays into the midterms, time will tell. But if the democrats are smart they will make the midterms all about Trump.

 

Nope, that's not what you were posting in 2016, all your posts then were rationalizing the "inevitable" defeat of Trump who according to your predictions was to take down the entire GOP with him.... just like right now you're using the same kind of rationalization to "predict" the inevitable collapse of Republican majorities due to Trump in 2018.

 

It's so bad that consumer confidence is at an all time high, the economy is doing better, the Dow is up, and you will start seeing more take home pay in your check come February. How bad is it for you?

 

If winning 90% of battleground states is a technicality, then you have a point.

We are not campaigning for 2020, we are governing, dismantling the horrible Obama legacy and fulfilling campaign promises... We will campaign for 2020 in 2020 and we will campaign on our record of accomplishments.

 

Interesting.... I understand (a little bit... not really) why you wouldn't want Clinton in the WH, but do you truly believe the country would be worse off under her than we are under Trumpy the clown? C'mon.... No way... The respect for the office of the President of the US is at an all time low... Disagree with her/Democratic policies if you want, we wouldn't be a laughingstock around the world (excepting China and Russia - yay)

 

You weren't paying attention if you think that.

 

I think you and others aren't realizing how much Trump grates on people, his obnoxious persona. Sure if the economy is booming next November, that should make a difference. But could that make up to the folks that just dislike Trump because of his egotistical persona? I don't know. I do know what the numbers show today. But we have 11 months to go and they could change. I doubt it, but they could.

 

You don't have to like him to like his results.

 

It is the very definition of technicality when you lose the popular vote, and yes, I understand that the actual race is determined by the Electoral College, but your oft-repeated contention, that there is NO connection between the EC and the popular vote, is also untrue, so let's not hear it again.

You are dismantling a legacy that the majority of the people approved of and didn't want dismantled, as they showed clearly in the 2016 election, and fulfilling campaign promises that only a minority supported then and even fewer support now. I truly hope you do run on your real accomplishments but if Trump runs true to form he will campaign on a succession of lies. No matter, you will lose either way.

 

I wasn't the only one who didn't want either one to become president. 6% of the electorate voted third party last year. Compare that to 1.5% in 2012, 1.2% in 2008 and again 1.2% in 2004. According to gallup, 25% of the total electorate disliked both candidates. They didn't want either one, most of that 25% held their nose and voted for one or the other anyway. Voted for the one they wanted to lose the least.

http://news.gallup.com/opinion/poll...mericans-dislike-presidential-candidates.aspx

Back in February of 2016 there was a poll showing that 56% of all Americans wanted the democrats to nominate someone other than Clinton. Of course the democrats ignored them and we see what ignoring them has brought. But choosing Hillary was the democrats right. I firmly believe almost any other democrats, alive or dead would have beaten Trump by 15 points or more. People just were turn off by Hillary. Each has their reasons.

Hillary probably would still have won if she hadn't allowed Trump to outwork and out campaign her. From 1 Sep through 8 Nov Trump made 116 campaign visits/stops to Hillary's 71 and part of those 71 were fund raisers in deep blue California and New York. Hillary took several days off to Trump's none. There was a huge difference in enthusiasm for the candidates also, Trump's supporters were full of energy and were willing to go to the four corners of the world for him. Clinton's more ho hum.

Strategy wise, Hillary's was to run up the score. She wanted to win bigger than Obama and she tried to add Georgia, Arizona and Utah to her column. In so doing, she ignored her own backyard, the so called blue wall. Trump concentrated on the electoral college, just getting 270 electoral votes. He visited Wisconsin five times to Hillary's none, zero. Michigan, Trump six visits/stops to Hillary's one. Pennsylvania, Trump 8 Clinton 5, closer. Even in delegate rich Florida, Clinton let Trump outwork her there too, 13 visits/stops for Trump vs. 8 for Clinton. Name any other Democratic candidate that would have let Trump outwork them like Hillary did. Perhaps she took the election for granted. Like she was next in line and that was enough. I don't know.

Hillary was just a poor candidate who ran a very inept campaign. This is what happens when a party chooses their candidate four years before the next election. Then jury rigs the democratic primaries in her favor. Angry Sanders supporters at that may also have cost her the election. Compare the Democratic base vote which went to Clinton 89-8 over Trump with 3% voting third party to Sanders supporters which Clinton won 71-12 over Trump with 12% voting third party. Who knows how many stayed home being angry at the rigging by the DNC and Democratic state party leaders of the primaries in Clinton's favor. My grand daughter was one who refused to vote, she was an avid Sanders supporter.

 

What results are those?. The Unemployment figures and the Stock Market were both doing just about what they are now before he took office, all Trump has done is take credit for their continuing as they were..

(And PLEASE don't try to bring up Trump's absolutely scurrilous figures for the Unemployment which even HE repudiated less than a month later when he took over.)

The ONLY thing I see Trump succeeding at is that he has alienated all the Muslims, Hispanics and other minorities in the country and I don't think most of us really CARE about that issue. We're not all that supportive of minorities but hating them isn't the end all and be all of our lives either.

 

You don't lose and don't win what you don't compete for. no one gives a f*ck about speed in the long-jump event, no one cares about the height of your jump in a hurdles race Duh

The majority of states elected Trump and his vision of the future.... in fact more states voted for Trump in 2016 than for Obama in 2012. Oh and welcome to the United States of America where states get to decide who the president is and what his agenda should be.

 

Bernie Sanders is the reason we have Trump in office now. I have long since awarded him the Doddering Old Fool Award for the 21st Century. Hillary was far from perfect, what politician is? But Trump made and makes her look like FDR and Winston Churchill combined and only someone like Sanders saying all the mean **** he said about her in the primaries could even temporarily blind people to that fact.

 

Again, interesting, but didn't answer my hypothetical - Do you truly believe the country would be worse off under HRC than we are under TTC (Trump) at XMAS 2017? I probably need not list all the things Trump has done to attempt to destroy the fabric of this country, but the one thing I'm pretty sure of is that Clinton would have gotten some bipartisan things done.... At least you can be sure she wouldn't have insulted McConnell and Ryan on Twitter...

 

People who live in glass houses...............................

 

Only in Trumplandia does "money laundering" not mean money laundering.

 

The President is who he is and his agenda is his agenda that can't be denied. Equally undeniable is the fact that he doesn't have the support of the American people nor do they support his agenda and it is losing more and more support every day. The more you try to act as if your arcane trickery to support a tyrant can overcome the will of the people the more the people will turn against you. Enjoy your brief period of ascendancy. After 2020, maybe sooner, I really think the Republican Party will be done forever in the USA

 

It was the right wing that for years has worked very hard on character assassinating Hillary Clinton. From the very moment years back that they assumed she had designs on running for the presidency they began their campaign to smear the crap out of her . You are laying blame on the wrong person.

 

Sadly, so much damage will already be done. Just look at the morons that the birther-in-chief is packing the courts with. The American people have pathetically short memories. Some cheer for the crumbs of trickle down bull-**** tax cuts and forget how the republicans ran the economy into the ground by the time Dubya left in 2008. How the **** can anyone still buy into the concept of voodoo economics after almost half a century of complete and utter failure. Just look at the amount of eligible voters that did not come out to vote this past election. You have much more faith in the intelligence and awareness of the American people than I do and I hope you are right and I am wrong because right about now we are a plutocratic nation with a transactional government and all due to the apathy and ignorance of much of the citizenry.