Dems are counting on impeachment

We heard this tripe in 2012. How did that work out?

 

It's been delayed a few years, all good things take time.

 

No, it's due largely to the Electoral College. If not for that strange and arcane institution Trump would be a rapidly fading memory

 

You're right that Hillary's loss was due mainly to the Republicans, and Sanders can't be blamed for them but I still can't help but say that if he hadn't run, Hillary wouldn't have lost. Nobody really believed all that crap about Hillary as long as only Republicans were saying it

 

I agree that it needs to go but we cannot even get rid of daylight savings time. So many ideas and policies are stuck on stupid.

 

Who said they weren't? Although, not all anarchists are leftist. I said there are no leftists in the CORPORATE, neo-liberal Democratic party.

 

Tinfoil hat alert.

 

Mueller removed him. So what's the problem? Investigators are allowed to have private opinions about things, btw. Rex Tillerson called the idiot an idiot, too, doncha know?

 

Yes, and I am counting on a gazillion dollars to fall from the sky so I can make the next payment on my Testa Rossa and delay its repossession for at least a month. Any day now, Dems!

 

Unfortunately, I also believe most people are that shallow when it comes to voting.

 

Cuomo.....



1998 Andrew Cuomo admits Forcing Banks to Make Affirmative Action (Subprime) Loans

That'll go over big with everyone who got slammed in the crash....ie: Middle Class voters.



Cherokee Genealogist Slams Elizabeth Warren

It will become a big issue if she runs, got anybody else?

 

BZZT Wrong on both counts.

Mueller probably does have the evidence for OoJ indictments and yes, nepotism is against the law.

 

With Trump's rate of mental deterioration, he will be thrown out by GOP exercising 25th amendment before he is impeached.

The GOP will then be roundly punished by the electorate for being such a bunch of obeisant sycophants to Trump.

Trump's performance will ensure that nobody with the name Trump will ever be elected again and no psychopathic megalomaniacs will ever be selected to compete for POTUS.

 

wet dreams are so funny

 

No, she just had Jill Stein do that for her instead lol.(And the beginning of the crybaby fest in Congress which continues to this day, robbing the American People of a duly representative government. Which is frustrating.)

 

The ATTEMPT to obstruct justice is also a crime.

 

If Sanders hadn't run, the DNC dictatorship may have very well succeeded in pushing Hillary through our throats(they came close enough.) Don't you lean closer to Sanders's views than Hillary?

 

You beat me to it. I was planning the exact same thing once I got to the end of this thread.

 

That's very true. But history shows people tend not to vote for someone they dislike. I like the word tend. I think you seen it last year. Independents had a 33% favorable/62% unfavorable of Trump, but a 27% favorable/70% unfavorable of Clinton. Trump won independents 46-42 with 12% voting third party. Twice the national total of 6% who voted third party which included 3% of Democrats and 4% of Republicans.

Those independents with favorable views of the candidates voted for those candidates. That left 40% who had an unfavorable view of both candidates. 12 out of that 40 opted for third party while the remaining 28 voted for whom they wanted to lose the least resulting in the 46-42-12 final vote tally of independents. This isn't a perfect example since most independents buy into the notion of voting third party is a wasted vote since the third party candidate can't win.

A better example, among Democrats Clinton had a 15% unfavorable, 8 out of that 15 voted for Trump, 3 more voted third party. Better example of people/Democrats not voting for someone they dislike. There are always exceptions, but for the most part.

 

what if it is a massive red wave in 2018, that is as much a possibility?

 

I do not think he will be removed from office using the impeachment process, so I am not 'counting on it' at all. The votes are not there, and they will not be there whatever happens in 2018. My hope is that collectively, the Pentagon, cabinet officers and West Wing, and VP learn to manage the giant toddler-in chief while massaging his ego enough he does not care that they are running the country instead of him. Let him tweet and play golf and vacation, while they child-proof the White House and oval office. I can still see way too many unplugged outlets , and cords hanging down...

Once they start to walk and then climb on things, you have to stay so hyper-vigilant when they are awake. Its exhausting.

 

Not really when the approval ratings for the BLOTUS and the GOP are this abysmal.

 

Trump has spent too many years wallowing in the sewers with the dark side to be clean. When Mueller is finished the only task we'll have in American is to repair the damage he's done to our country.

 

First off he fired Comey not Mueller and he can fire any director he chooses for any reason he wants, no law broken. Secondly the UCJ, what does the University Council of Jamaica have to do with any of this. Maybe you were referring to the UCMJ, Uniform Code Of Military Justice and when Flynn retired the UCMJ no longer applies to him.

 

Sanders supporters not turning out was a factor, sure. But I would place more of the blame on Hillary herself. I cited the figures already, she shouldn't have let Trump outwork and out campaign her by that huge margin she did. She should have paid more attention to her own backyard, the blue wall. She didn't. Hillary also didn't energize folks like Trump did.

Let's face it, the majority of Americans disliked both candidates last year. The majority didn't want either. Both candidates in a way was forced upon America. Most primaries are closed primaries allowing only Republicans and Democrats to vote in them. Keep in mind last November according to Gallup Democrats made up 30% of the total electorate, Republicans 27%, independents 42%. We have a system where 30% choose one candidate, 27% choose the other and it is usually only the hard core party faithful that go vote in the primaries. Then each trying to get the 42% of indies to support one or the other candidates. But last year you had 54% of independents disliking both candidates. so they opted for the lesser of two evils in their eyes. The candidate they wanted to lose the least. Trump won independents 46-42 over Hillary with 12% voting third party.

Or as I like to state, we have whom we have as president because of the choice and decisions made by the two major parties last year. Trump is the consequence of those decisions. This is whom the two major parties choose, one candidate viewed favorably by 36% of all America, the other by 38% of all Americans. Those are the lowest favorable ratings of any presidential candidate going back to FDR when Gallup and Pew Research first started keeping track of these things. This is how America as a whole viewed Trump and Clinton. The lowest favorable rating until last year was Barry Goldwater back in 1964 at 43%, G.H.W. Bush in 1992 held the second lowest favorable at 46%.

No other presidential candidate nominated by the two major parties from FDR until last year had a favorable rating of lower than 50% outside of Goldwater and Bush. Then we get two in the same year or election. America as a whole didn't really want Trump, they didn't want Clinton either. So America went with the candidate they didn't want the least, not the one they wanted to win. The one they wanted to lose the least.