Dems are counting on impeachment

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The BLOTUS is NOT above the Law of the Land.

    If he fires someone because they conducting an investigation that connects to himself that is obstruction of justice.
     
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    And abuse of power ;). Also, what is never mentioned, he sworn an oath to the Constitution that he is stepping on.
     
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    How can you have any trust in him either when he has placed a majority of democrats in his team and he has strayed so far from the collusion between Trump and the Russians in the election?
     
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    I don't think so. Remember the Democrats set out to destroy Trump beginning the day after the election. With Trump's help, they are succeeding. I think the Republicans which controls congress would have done the same with Hillary. Only the Republicans would have had the additional power of congress to do it. As much as Democrats hate Trump, Republicans hate Hillary. Bipartisanship ended when Reid and McConnell took over the senate. Previous leaders like Mitchell and Dole, Lott and Daschle worked together and didn't hate each other like Reid and McConnell did.

    You would have seen congressional investigations going on with Clinton's e-mails, the Clinton Foundation, anything Clinton. Like Trump, Clinton was very easy to dislike. Democrats and pro Clinton folks will never admit that. One should remember that on election day Clinton was seen favorable by only 38% of all America vs. 36% for Trump. There was no love there for either one outside of their avid supporters. 54% of all independents didn't want either one to become their next president. But independents don't choose whom the candidates will be. Independent probably gave the election to Trump. He won the independent vote 46-42 with 12% voting third party.

    When approximately 60% of the country are against you as it was with both Trump and Clinton. I don't think things would be much difference today if Hillary had won. She wasn't a uniter much like Trump isn't. Instead of Mueller investigating Trump, there would be at least a half dozen committees in the Republican controlled congress investigating every thing Clinton.

    This is what our politics have become.
     
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    That is the best talent pool of expertise he can draw from and you have to follow the money for leverage and motive. Professionals can do their jobs regardless of political leaning, the RW can't seem to grasp the concept of consummate professionals. BTW, Mueller, Wray and Rosenstein are the leaders of the teams and are card carrying Republicans.
     
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    People vote for whom they vote for for many different reasons. You have those who vote for someone only because of the R and or the D next to their name regardless of the candidate, good or bad. Yeah, independents are much more fickle. But for independents last year using your word shallow, most indies viewed both presidential candidates as shallow or unwanted by them.
     
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    Assumes alt right disinformation.
     
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    Nope!

    It was the GOP that plotted to obstruct Obama on this inauguration day. There is no evidence that the Dems did anything similar.
     
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    There's isn't hardly anyone in Washington I trust. That includes Trump, Clinton, Republicans and Democrats. I think we ought to let Mueller go ahead and finish his investigation. what do you want, Mueller to have only Republicans on his team? Do you think if Mueller found Trump not guilty of anything the public at large would buy that? Most of the FBI and investigators have their own personnel beliefs and politics. But they get laid aside. Finding the truth is more important to them.

    What do you want Mueller to do? Fire anyone and everyone who voted for Clinton. If he did that, he would have to fire everyone who voted for Trump. Do you want Mueller's team only made up of those who voted third party or who didn't vote at all?
     
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    Wrong. While it may be true he can fire any director he chooses there's a law called 'Obstruction of Justice' that can be broken.
     
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    If you think the democrats didn't set out to destroy Trump from day one, your dark blue partisan colored glasses are so thick, you can't see. But that's okay, that partisanship today.
     
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    As an Independent I don't have any partisan bias. As far as I am concerned all politicians are liars.

    Where is the evidence that the Dems connived to destroy the BLOTUS?

    Was there a meeting or emails or talking points?

    What actual evidence do you have to support your allegation?
     
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    The reason Hillary was so disliked was not the Republican campaign of lies, not at first. Most people were smart enough to see the Republican calumny for what it was and discount it, but when Sanders, widely recognized as one of the most honest men in Congress, started saying the same things people took a second look at the Republican prevaricatons. I admit freely that Hillary is a dull and uninteresting person, seen by many as the epitome of the "policy wonk". Is that a good reason for us to overthrow the United States of America?

    You can't really blame Sanders either and again, not at first or even at second. Trump was a clown to most, who didn't let on that he was a clone of Hitler until he'd won, though anyone who'd ever managed to read even a paragraph of Breitbart and then observed how they saw Trump as the Second Coming of Christ should have had an idea.
     
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    The only place that hate shows up is from the Trump hating media and those with TDS.
     
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    It wasn't just the Democrats it was the Media, the MSM went out of their way to report exactly what Trump SAID instead of Breitbart's and Fox's later "analyses" which made him sound so much better, lots more polished, sometimes even sane if you squinted hard. /off satire.
     
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    Wrong. If he fires someone investigating him...or his associates...he is subject to Obstruction of Justice charges.
     
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    Possibly the sanest post you've ever made.
     
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    Leftists truly live in a fantasy world where cops are murdering blacks by the millions daily and there is a KKK member behind every tree.
     
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    Comey was not a field investigator

    Just an incompetent, biased and corrupt swamp rat
     
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    Hillary had an approval rating of 66% in 2009. Her drop in approval was the direct result of years of spurious attacks by the GOP.

    http://www.people-press.org/2015/05/19/hillary-clinton-approval-timeline/
     
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    He was running the investigation and Trump's own words tell us that he fired Comey to "take the pressure off"

    Comey by the way...was a Republican like most of the other "biased" people under attack.
     
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    Must be why Comey testified it had no affect on the investigation. BTW, no one has ever gotten in trouble for hoping something.
     
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    Yes, you're right, I have TDS. Sometimes a group of symptoms can be the systems healthy reaction to a poison. You're sick if you DON'T have them

    And notice there is no answer to my question, not that I really expected any. Trump's done **** for shinola except to bash people. I'm one who likes to point out that America doesn't need to be made Great as we already are, but OTOH we're not so well off that we can base our entire domestic and foreign policy on the unjustified hatred of everything and everybody that we see as not exactly like ourselves
     
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