NEWS ALERT House expands Russia probe to FBI, Justice use of unconfirmed dossier to snare Trump

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  1. Your Best Friend

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    Not at all but you don't think you and your comrades have been over stating the threat Russia posed in order to demonize Trump to an even greater degree for the sake of political gain?
    I think that's clearly what is going on. You are simply part of a disingenuous campaign to destabilize the legally elected president of the USA.
    And according to nut jobs like Joy Behar, that's clearly sedition.
     
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    No I don't think it's overstated at all. And by my comrades you're including Intel heads appointed by trump right?
     
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    We see this every week and we see 0 special prosecutor, 0 findings every week with 0 charges and 0 guilty please.

    There is a reason only FOX talks about this crap.
     
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    You seem upset that the Trump Justice Department Special Counsel's investigation has not been marred by leaks. That's how a competent professional works.

    If you need to dismiss the findings of the FBI, NSA, and CIA that Russia interfered in the US democratic process, that is what you must do. Putin appreciates your complicity, I'm sure. Meanwhile, the indictments and the grand juries will continue wherever the evidence so dictates.
     
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    Good point. I shall not engage in foul, anti-American behaviour by screeching, "Lock him up! Lock him up!" before there has been a trial and conviction. Until then, Manafort merely faces multiple criminal charges, and I shall amend my comment regarding

    Manafort alleges he’s been "injured" by the investigation, causing him "significant reputational harm,
    has exposed him to invasions of his personal privacy, and has forced him to

    incur substantial costs and expenses to defend himself."
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    Yes, I believe that is what happens when law enforcement authorities develop sufficient evidence for grand juries to determine that criminal charges against an individual are proper.
     
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    The house couldn’t subpoena a pack of sweets from a toddler who cares if they expand the probe to the moon is all talk and talk and talk, hearings, theathre , NO BITE, NO POWER, NO SPINE , NO PUNITIVE MEASURES, JUST BLUSTER ! So i suggest you stop having an orgasm about this! is going Nowhere even a fool can see that.
     
  7. Professor Peabody

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    Sure.

    Investigate ALL or none.

    Process crimes that wouldn't have existed except for the investigation? Get real.

    Then there's this........

    The truth will set them free or throw some in jail.
     
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    I'm laughing at your belief that you might actually find something, despite the fact that the NSA would already have had any substantiating evidence in its possession since before the words "collusion" and "Russia" were ever uttered.
     
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    Whatever Mueller exposes is whatever he exposes. I'm not interested in guessing what that might be.

    What's so delightful is that, shortly after the Messiah whined a couple of dozen times in an interview that there was "no collusion", and amidst his cult's coordinated crap-flinging at the Trump Justice Department Special Counsel and calls for his firing, Bannon, one of the principal collaborators in the Trump campaign, and a high-level operative for the first six months of the Trump regime, talks openly and on the record about treasonous and unpatriotic behavior in the Trump inner sanctum.

    Bloody marvelous! He just placed his imprimatur on Mueller's noble mission! He is confronting Treason!
     
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    yes, Mueller's gonna expose stuff the NSA has had for over a year. Too cute.
     
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    lol, Nunes shenanigans

    On Wednesday afternoon Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray met with Speaker Paul Ryan for two hours on Capitol Hill. The two Deep State officials told Ryan they will finally deliver the subpoenaed documents to Congress.

     
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    Here;s more:

     
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    By deep state you mean trump appointments right?
     
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    What is especially "cute" is Bam Bam, Trump's Svengali, attesting to treason and unpatriotic antics by Trump's handmaidens.

    That bolsters the mission of the Trump Justice Department Special Counsel, and puts the kibosh on the Trump cult's conspiracy to invalidate Republican Robert Mueller's services in defense of US integrity.

    Once the Messiah dumped the jamoke that brought him to the shindig, the alt-right boy issued the self-serving eulogy: The Trump presidency that we fought for, and won, is over. It’ll be something else, and there’ll be all kinds of fights, and there’ll be good days and bad days, but that presidency is over.”

    The worshippers of Trump and Bannon are sniveling because their gods are kicking one another's candy arses all over Olympus.

     
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    What does that have to do with evidence the NSA has had for over a year, yet Mueller still can't produce? You keep skipping overy that
     
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    “Lordy! I do love those insider tips!”
     
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    Cool. So you don’t believe 99% of this Russia crap then. Sources close to, anonymous source within the administration.....

    And I have some idea. They did have Manaforts stuff “tapped” at Trump Towers, and it isn’t only the right that thinks they used the dossier for the FISA warrant.
     
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    No, they didn't have his stuff tapped at trump tower. The "tapped" him at collection points through the system (basically at data "substations"). The don't "tap" phones anymore, they extract those data points.

    Nobody knows what was used to get the manafort warrants. NOBODY. I don't profess to know if they did/did not use the dossier. All I am pointing to is those on the right who claim it as fact
     
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    He may well be guilty of something but until grand juries replace actual trials in a court of law I will refrain from branding Paul Manafort a criminal.
     
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    One of those points originated at Trump Towers.

    CNN seems to think it’s a fact.... they aren’t on the right.
     
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    Where it originates is moot. And if they did surveil him, they did it lawfully. That’s the part I don’t understand from the right these days. This ideal that the Obama administration was able to pull off some deep state conspiracy to spy on trump with the goal of changing the election is lauaghable (hint: THEY LOST). You cant get 2 people form the same party in any room in Washington and get a consensus on ANYTHING.
     
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    You want it to be moot because it originates at Trump Towers.
     
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    Trump towers has NOTHING to do with it. All due respect sage, but Manaforts location means nothing. They didn’t touch trump tower. The communication wen thru MANY computer systems, and at one of those points, they extracted the data from there. They surveiled all of Manaforts communitcations, even when he was walking down the street. This isn’t the 70’s where they had to physically attach a device to a line, this was done from thousands of miles away in a bunker in Utah where they copy all the data and then mine from there. You didn’t think Bush built that facility in Utah to have a knitting circle did you ?
     
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    Senators want criminal investigation of Trump dossier author...
    First known referral in congressional probes...
     
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    That is going to be difficult since he's a UK citizen and after Trump has insulted US allies worldwide,how much cooperation will they get.
     
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