Reviewing Atheist 'Lack Belief' in Deities theory. <<MOD WARNING ISSUED>>

So, we are starting to just go in circles here. Let's try this, can you give me an example of something that is untrue?

 

that a circle is square

 

Prove it.

 

a square has 4 sides a circle has none.
well thats a shitty off the cuff description but I expect you get the point.

 

atheism by definition means lack of belief in a god or gods.

 

So before we go too far down that rabbit hole, I'll just sum up by saying that even mathematics relies on axioms that we can't 100% prove are true. You can't really 100% prove that a square has 4 sides, at some point you are relying on your senses and experiences of the world. And those may all be an illusion.

Here's a better question. Is there a dragon hidden in a crevasse in the moon waiting to destroy the world?

 

atheists, by definition, do not have a theology.

 

In math there are provable contradictions however, 1 cannot be 0. I can go on and on with examples.

The dragon, same as teapot, I dont know, there may be, have you verified there is not? I have not verified it so I cant say one way or the other.

 

Exactly, there is overwhelming evidence that there isn't a dragon there, and even though the consequences of being wrong about that would be dire, we can't prove there isn't. So, is it logical to act as if there is one? Or, can we logically and safely assume there isn't? We can also logically say that any efforts to, say, prepare to fight that dragon, or worry about it are irrational while acting as if there isn't one is more rational.

Edit: Also, logic may just be a construct of our illusory perceptions and cognition. Still can't say for sure that logic is 100% valid.

 

An you continue to falsify and throw your petty insults in order to avoid avoid debate.

Let us remind ourselves what this debate you are desperately trying to sidetrack is about.

So let me clarify one more time, Prince Philip exists, no atheist can argue that, some theists believe him to be a god, no atheist can argue that there are some people who believe him to be a god. Therefor I cannot argue that their god exists only that he is not a god. You stated that a brit lied to them, thus you are suggesting that he is not a god, that cannot be a agnostic position.

 

Probably the same amount of proof that he is. And, following your lead, he will never display it until you display yours. Which is to say never.

 

I have verified through negative search results and biology that dragons do not exist.
I have verified through multiple sources and people who went to the moon that there is no air to breath even if said dragon existed.
1-1=0......so 1 can indeed be 0

I can go on and on with examples.

 

Oh? So they come out here and argue about God without so much as a clue, thanks for pointing that out.

You dont mind if I ask to see your investigation that proves there is no dragon up there do you?

But it is I clarified what I mean just like you did, so you just happened to accidentally not notice I see.

Do you have any proof he is not God?

Oh now thats brilliant You should be up for a no-bell prize for that!

 

Actually Atheists invented religions. Now they don't like getting the credit. One must stop to actually think to get this. But of course they invented religions. They did not invent GOD nor did the religions invent GOD. God has always been the founder.

 

Sigh.. that was exactly my point. There is no investigation that proves it. There is overwhelming evidence that there isn't one, and no evidence that there is one. Now, are you worried that there is one?

 

Well, if there were a god, it would have had to have invented religion, and atheism.

 

Sure, I want to see the overwhelming evidence if you dont mind. (because I do not believe it)

 

This doesn’t even begin to make sense, lol

 

Wait... you don't believe there is overwhelming evidence that a dragon does not exist on the moon?

Also, how can you disbelieve it? I thought you were agnostic.

 

What is really confusing to Atheists is this.

Consider it a syndrome. It works this way. They sign up for a service in say South America. This leaves Africa alone for a time.

They encounter in South America (well this was a long time back) a tribe. They first see the tribe acting. They decide a lot of things about the Tribe. At the same moment, the Tribe is also thinking much about the invaders.

The Tribe has rituals. The invaders are confused. The invaders do not follow the rituals. The Tribe for instance tosses virgins into volcanoes. To the tribe it keeps the volcano from killing them. The invaders may have a religion. Theirs does not toss virgins into volcanoes. I want this to attempt simplicity.

The invaders thought is to end that dreadful practice. The tribe wants to teach their religion to the invaders. What a heck of a conflict. The tribe refuses to accept slavery. The invaders have slaves. Each is perfectly persuaded the other is wrong.

Asked about GOD invaders announce they are Muslims. The tribe is very puzzled. They think of nature as GOD.

So along comes the atheist asking both, why believe religion? And who are your GODS. A funny question given the atheist view of this. Why bother asking about GOD or more than one GOD when you tell us you do not believe in GOD?

So, there the atheist sits. Full of wonder. But the Atheist never wonders who is the more civilized. Those who believe GOD exists or those who decide he does not.

Anyway the Atheist reports back to his home in Australia two nuts believe in some GOD.

The truth is stranger than fiction.

If one will simply look all around. Not at your toes and fingers, for are those miracles or not? The miracle you say?

Is it not a miracle of some sort, or magic that from nothing, the first thing to happen per evolution is a cell was born. Not from other life, but from nothing at all. It was chemicals to put it bluntly.

Scientists believe that CHON and SP formed life. We are talking elements. Just how it took place has not been found out yet since all experiments to create life do not work.

Anyway, the atheists decided before departing to visit much more of South America and learned fast that tribes varied all over the map as to their idea of GOD. Some loved GOD and others feared GOD. Man this is complex. But some of you will get it.

So, since tribes varied in beliefs, the atheists felt they won the argument.

The question atheists can't answer is simple. What created the elements on the chart of elements? Before there were elements, what created elements? Why did a few elements figure out how to become living? This living may not include thinking, but it is life.

GOD is a simple concept. But if you keep shooing it away, it eludes you.

 

When a person says that, to visualize what I believe ... take the case of the person with no chemistry background. And try to tell that person about atoms and electrons. Try to tell them that those end up producing oxygen and carbon and many elements. Their heads will spin. They won't want to believe in such a creator. GOD made all of that. For your pleasure.

God did invent atheists. Atheists did not invent GOD. Other brilliant people figured out that GOD invented the universe. Consider GOD as you would Einstein. You probably have no idea what he was going on about, but at some point you believe what he did or you refuse.

 

I dont believe you have overwhelming evidence.

 

Maybe I replied too fast earlier. Atheists hold beliefs. As near as i figure them, their superiority is why they do not accept GOD. They are the ultimate of humans or all animal life. They are it. If you are smart, you become them. This is behind their thought pattern. Religion is a term of art as I see it. Take me, I am a LDS. I really do not have trouble seeing many gods. Why?

I see families of GODs. But to make it simple, GOD the creator created the universe. This by extension tells us he created all that is on the table of Elements. Then the elements were used to create life. And this does not hint that if you are a devoted Muslim, as you chop off the mans's head or torture him, it does not mean you pleased GOD.

Humans can be awful creatures. Wars prove this.

 

Lol, you like to ramble, but, you really want us to look at god the way we look at Einstein?

 

as I expected!