I would add that the adults who brought the kids here must be deported And for every DACA who gets a green card take away one legal immigration visa from their home country quota
A wall is not needed along the wilderness areas where we have plenty of time to apprehend intruders Much of the border will be covered by electronic sensors and drones But near built up areas such as our cities and border towns rhe wall is needed to slow the illegals down until we can arrive and pick them up
Path to citizenship. Let’s not just give it away. Green cards for now. Citizenship once border is secure. We don’t need to do this again in 10 years.
IMO our elite allowed this illegal immigration to go on for decades because they were profiting from it, so it is not entirely the fault of illegals who sensed tacit consent. It seems a bit drastic to expel people that have become productive, positive members of our society...but the criminal and welfare types should be expelled.
Agreed But if we are placing blame it is even less the fault of Americans who have tried to have our immigration laws enforced during the past 30 years since the last amnesty Just as with the DACAs I am willing to compromise on the 11 to 25 million people who are here illegally Truely outstanding people who have never been in trouble may be allowed to stay But only after the wall is built and the other reforms are in place No amnesty now and we’ll see about the other stuff later Everything is strictly cash on delivery
Maybe we could put up the Statue of Liberty on ebay for bids to help fund the wall as it surely would not fit into our society any longer. Of course we could just try to get the scrap metal copper price of around two hundred thousands dollars.
a portion of the wall, increased border security and make it a federal felony to knowingly hire a illegal - I could go with that
if there is not, there will be another shutdown that last much longer, so I think there will be that and most Americans support protections for the dreamers... of both parties
No wall=no DACA No elimination of chain migration=no DACA No removal of lottery system immigration=no DACA Without plans to prevent this from happening again then there should be no movement on DACA.
Thats possible But it could turn out that the democratics want to keep the DACA pot boiling till november when they are sure to get a big turnout of illegal aliens and legal hispanics voting for them on election day
While I can agree with you in principle, I say, give the man his wall. Its only on paper, and Congress would never fund it. So your basically getting what you want for very little in return.
YEARS ago I told people how this would end. Both sides treated me with disdain and disrespect. I was proven right. Now, this is still my opinion: 1) We don't need no freaking wall 2) We don't need the "Dreamers" to become citizens 3) We don't need mass deportations All you need is to allow employers hire whoever in the Hell they want to hire. Get out of their way and let the free market work. Repeal the unearned tax breaks that Trump gave to big business. Make employers earn the tax breaks: A tax break for hiring an all American workforce Tax breaks for employers that take Americans off welfare, unemployment, and disability Tax incentives to have a starting wage 15 percent above poverty level Create a class of guest workers with NO expectation of citizenship. Do NOT give guest workers any of the benefits / privileges / immunities of citizenship. If they cannot afford themselves... Go home. I don't know what has to be done, but somebody should be able to articulate the point that everybody who washes up on shores does not need to become a citizen NOR do we need them to become citizens.
I agree with Pycckia, I say NOT to DACA and NO to giving anyone who is in country a free pass because it will be used in the future to cajole compliance with something even more detrimental than allowing people to become citizens even though the manner in which they arrived is against protocol, though it is not any fault of their own. It is the similar to a person receiving something that was illegally obtained; they are accessories to the crime after the fact.
If he gets it on paper he will get it built and it will do some good in slowing down illegal immigration from south of the border.
I think Trump's proposal is good. Funding for the wall and the other immigration changes, and the DACA people get to stay with a shot at citizenship over a ten year period. They were kids when their parents dragged them over the border illegally, so give them a break in exchange for building a wall so that can't happen any more.
The Dems are probably not going to go along with this..... They don't care about legalization as proven by the fact that they didn't do squat about it when they had both houses of Congress under Obama. The Dem corporate handlers don't want a worker program that is honestly regulated. And they certainly don't want a secure border to compliment that.
Actually, if Trump were to resign nobody would build the wall and that funding could go to the coast guard and do something useful unlike the wall or Trump.
While I am disgusted at the idea of giving these brats or anyone in their families anything but a quick-march out of the country (which is all they deserve), I'm realistic enough to know that, yes, we're going to have to give them amnesty. It makes me want to puke, but that is what we must do, or else the stinking damned Democrats will take over both houses of Congress. And, damn it, is IS true that children have no control over where their criminal parents drag them around to. The PARENTS should be forced to leave the United States or pay a very heavy fine in order to remain here with their dependent children. Hell, they'll all end up on welfare anyway.... I rationalize it this way -- the population of the U. S. right now is a little over 325 million. So, we throw in another 1.8 million illegals. I know, I know... it sucks, it stinks, it's rotten to the damned core. Even Ronald Reagan, the very best president of my long life came to the same conclusion. And even though both the Democrats and Republicans of his day stabbed him in the back and betrayed Reagan, he made the right decision. But, we're supposed to be getting a wonderful 'wall' in a trade for this disgrace? Nobody with any sense at all is going to even think about the idea of building a 30 foot-high 'wall' through 1,550 miles of the southern border. I've written about the insanity and stupidity of even trying to do this many times. FAR better that we should use armed surveillance drones and a LIMITED use of land mines instead. The cost would be microscopic compared to building, maintaining, and staffing a damned 'wall'....
