Statement on Visit to the USA by United Nations Special Rapporteur on extr

Terrible comparison. The U.S. invaded Iraq over fears of the existence of WMD's - a threat to its allies and to itself. Good idea? no. Illegal? I don't believe the U.S. has a law banning the invasion of a threatening country. So no. Torturing people in the U.S. is illegal. You already knew that.

 

Dear U.N.

Please. We won't take it personal if you should leave soil and move to a better,
21st Century location.

Moi favors San Paolo, Brazil and is open to alternatives.
But, not places with the cosmopolitan benefits of NYC.


Sincerely
Moi

 

I feel a marriage joke coming on.

 

Well I suppose you have a point, and I phrased it poorly. I meant informed by knowledge and reality. I did not mean informed by prejudice, ignorance and superstition.

Yes, some folks have an opinion that walking under a ladder will bring them bad luck. I consider that to be an UNinformed opinion. An opinion formed by ignorance and superstition, but an opinion nonetheless.

As for our invading Iraq, you mean to say that the US feared Iraq, which had been decimated 12 years earlier? Not in the Army I served in. Iraq had no navy, its airforce was in bunkers covered by desert sand, and it had all been blown away in the first Gulf War.

You might have believed the bullshit spread by Powell, Bush & Cheney, but I did not. Dubya invaded Iraq so that he and his buddies could share in the spoils of military aggression, empire, and the US Treasury.

 

The interesting part is that the poster to whom that was a reply did dodge the answer, any answer.

 

I have a personal belief that Bush invaded Iraq as vengeance for Hussein trying to kill his father. I don't have a speck of evidence. But it doesn't make sense to me to do something as stupid as that was for a rational reason. Keeping the arms manufacturers' stock prices high is not a rational reason either.

I understand that we didn't fear Iraq. The U.S. has endorsed itself as the global police force and decided that a bad man like Saddam should be take out of power because of his behavior. Stupid, but probably the real truth.

 

Other liberals are convinced bush just wanted to steal iraqs oil

Others believe it was so that Halliburton could get rich

I think he just made a bad decision based on bad info given to him by the swamp rats in our intelligence services

 

"The United States is one of the world’s richest, most powerful and technologically innovative countries; but neither its wealth nor its power nor its technology is being harnessed to address the situation in which 40 million people continue to live in poverty."

But the US is now doing something about it. Trump is bringing manufacturing jobs back to the US so those in poverty can get jobs and get themselves out of poverty, he is also overhauling welfare to make it what it once was, a safety net and not what it is now for some, a hammock.

 

You are probably right about that.

 

Income redistribution is not a noble goal.

 

Why do Americans get to judge who should be in office and who should not? Isn't that up to the citizens of the country in question?

Saddam kept peace and stability in Iraq. Sewer, lights and other such things. Saddam was our fair-haired son for quite a few years. Our Commerce Dept guaranteed all manner of loans to him, and Rumsfeld and others delivered all manner of weapons to him, including chemical weapons.

 

way to ruin a good narrative.

 

Depends on the extent of that redistribution. If the wealth gap gets too wide, social/political instability is soon to follow. Of course that is only if one believes that history has something to teach us.

 

Of course.

I hope you haven't confused me with someone who thinks the Iraq invasion was a good idea.

 

Perhaps you could enlighten us on when that time was.

 

Up until the 1970's and the Vietnam war. We had charitable schools, orphanages, and hospitals all over the Far East, Middle East and Africa. Of course Americans had the money to have them. There were so many charity workers in the Ottoman Empire, that Washington couldn't declare war on Turkey who was allied with Germany, for fear the Turks would start killing the Americans together with the Armenians. As for China, everyone tried to reach the American enclave in Nanking so as not to be massacred by the Japanese, but not many could make it. There is a book and movie by Elias Kazan called: America, America.

After WWII we had the Marshall Plan to rebuild Europe, and we were looked on admirably - until the Vietnam war. Many people still think of this country as it was in the past, and this is why they fall for all the lies and propaganda.

 

Oh those were great times. World wars and genocide. Guess your thinking about Glenn Miller and his swing bands. The Korean War was a brutal war.

 

source?

 

40 million... that is well over 10% of the US population is poor as dirt.
You can have a freaking full time job,... and still qualify to get aid to buy food to stop you from starving to death.


Working hard simply does not pay off in capitalistic US of A.

 

It has nothing to do with Saddan, and everything to do with the think tank/lobbyists who control our foreign policy. The plan was to take out seven countries in five years starting with Iraq.

 

I am in accordance with the OP, I agree we should leave the UN immediately, cut off all bribery aid to countries and institutions that hate us but take our money like we owe them something and spend half of those billions on the wall and the other half on grants for people on welfare to go to a trade school

We have too many poor people to help the world

 

It's "noble" to see 8 men own the wealth equal to half of the world's population? What is that other than redistribution from the many to the few.

 

You say lobbyists control our foreign policy. Wouldn't influence be a better word to use?

 

Me.

No one knows exactly how many illegals are in the US

Estimates run from as little as 11 million to as much as 25 million

And I choose 20 million as a conservative number

 

So you're just talking total nonsense that these numbers are included in the poverty of the US.