What is wrong with American traditions

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is wrong with American traditions that built this country. Things like God, family, and country. Whats wrong with hard work and personal responsibility. What is wrong with prayer and saying the Pledge of allegiance in schools. What is wrong with only letting people in the country if they follow immigration laws.

    All of those things and more built this country. Why abandon them now.
     
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    WTF are you talking about?
     
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    You abandoned ALL of the above when you imposed your BLOTUS on this nation.
     
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    These traditions just are not popular any longer. Hollywood dos not promote them, they prefer to promote homosexuality and the California way of life.

    The young people don't believe in God, the family is in shambles for the most part, a man with a penis is a woman, both parents have to work and can't watch the kids, the kids are glued to the cell phone 24/7 so they don't care about spending time with the parents.

    This is not the 1940's / 50's...

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    Just got to move on...times change.

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    Someone has their rose-colored glasses strapped too tight.
     
  6. Dayton3

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    I agree with you. But it has been a popular media driven idea for decades that adherence to traditions is in some way "oppressive" and squashes individualism.
     
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    What older tradition is there than young people rebelling against the traditions of their elders? Jesus rebelled against the traditions of his elders.
     
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    Because we try to enforce these traditions with authority instead of reason. I believe that authoritarive religious doctrine is the foundational culprit. We say 'worship God or go to Hell' instead of 'Love thy Neighbor.' Then we say 'honor your family because its a sin not to' instead of acknowledging the dynamic of the nuclear family being the driving force behind roving hunter-gatherers settling and founding civilization.

    Humans tend to reject authority. It shouldn't be a surprise that family values and spirituality would eventually be rejected when pushed authoritatively.

    But the 'rebels' took over the established authority a couple generations ago. Now its collectivism and godlessness being pushed authoritatively. This to will be rejected. Family values and spirituality (as differentiated from established religion) are becoming the new counter culture. Todays 'rebels' study scripture at home and value their family over The State. The cycle is on the upswing.
     
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    Jesus was 30 years old when he began his ministry. By the standards of that time he was an elder.
     
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    I'll tell you what's wrong with them.

    1) God: Good for you, I don't want to live in a theocracy and I don't care about your god. If you try to govern me with your church, I can and will show up and steal from the collection plates.
    2) Family: Nothing inherently, but I'm guessing this is a dogwhistle for you to complain that gay couples having families somehow devalues your own. I assure you that your family is just as godawful and uninteresting to everyone now as they were before gay people were given more human rights.
    3) Country: The country has never done anything for me or anyone I know and has a long history of doing awful things. You can't just demand loyalty, you have to earn it, and America hasn't earned it.
    4) Hard work and personal responsibility: Have literally never been American traditions, America was founded by people who literally owned people for the sole purpose of making money without working and freeing themselves up to be rich *******s that run around in powdered wigs yelling at taxes all day.
    5) Prayer: you hate saudi arabia for having prayer in their schools. you're just christian saudi arabia to me.
    6) Pledge of Allegiance: do i really have to tell you why having our youth ritualistically dedicate themselves to a symbol of our country in a monotone drone every single morning before their daily instructions is creepy? north korean kids do the same thing with a picture of kim jong un and you freak out.
    7) Immigration laws: used as an excuse to detain anyone vaguely mexican looking in literal camps without due process
     
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    Which God? Prayer to who? Why should I as an atheist care about that tradition and more importantly why should the government be involved with it at all?

    “God, family, and country” were used by White conservative Christians to justify atrocities throughout American history.
     
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    Ah yes. The “Good ole days” of the 1940’s and 50’s.

    The days the Conservatives want to go back to. When a man could legally rape his wife in almost every state, gays got locked in mental institutions, and uppity minorities got lynched.
     
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    Because a group that has an ancient hatred of Western civilization and Christianity was able to gain control. These things have to go.
     
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    Please give an example where the media has done that
     
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    Look into who owns and controls the media. You might discover why they have such antipathy towards Western and Christian societies.
     
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    Is it really that impossible for you to imagine that people spontaneously moved to alter aspects of their society that they grew to dislike, or that this was an inevitable result from preconditions? Is some kind of conspiracy moving the locus of control away from white americans the only way you can describe our current state of decay? Because that seems like a massive failure of imagination to me.
     
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    No, they didn’t spontaneously decide that race, family, nation, gender, religion, and every other foundational pillar of society was suddenly wrong and needed to go. This was done through subversion by a foreign group hostile towards the West and Christianity specifically. I posted a video for you last week I believe on who did this and how it was done. It was very detailed and specific, with many sources given.
     
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    The modern evolution of Western culture is just the next step in a process that began with the Enlightenment. Are you saying the Enligtenment was part of this Jewish conspiracy of yours?
     
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    Tradition makes it difficult to complete the change to globalist oligarchy.
     
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    Yeah, you can tell when he's off his meds.
     
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    No, the modern evolution of Western culture was primarily driven by Frank Boas, Sigmund Freud, the Frankfurt school, and many others.
     
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    No, it’s just the next iteration of the process that began when people began to think individuals should be free and have protected rights and that “all men are created equal”.
     
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    Then why did Jews pioneer nearly every liberal social movement in America the past 100 years?
     
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    With the help of forced slavery, mass murder, forced relocations and a bloody revolution, of course.
     
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    Who else was going to pioneer it? The Christian conservatives who were actively oppressing people?
     

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