Could Hitler NOT be in hell????

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Could Hitler NOT be in hell?

  1. There is no hell.... so Hitler could not be in it.

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  2. No.. Hitler is in hell.......

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  3. Yes.. the Messiah Yeshua - Jesus who spoke to this young woman was correct.....

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  4. Wow.. this is confusing...... but I guess if Hitler isn't in hell... then there is hope for all!

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  5. This woman has been deceived by Satan appearing as an angel of light.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hitler was about 1/8th Jewish.......
    and if he can be brought up and up and up and up to the place where he can fit in well in the lowest level of heaven.........
    then all of us have HOPE....!


    RomANS 11:26

    And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
    ......

    Rom 11:32

    For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
     
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  2. Anobsitar

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    I said very clear what I think. You do not like to understand what I said, that's all.

     
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    What's anti-Semitic nonsense. And this not only because 1/8 Jews do not exist - except in the fantasy of Nazis and Darwinists. Hitler had not only biologically nothing to do with Jews. Except that he had hated Jews on no personal reason to do so he had nothing to do with Jews at all. He did also not learn to hate Jews when he was in school. He used and produced just simple anti-Semitic clichés on political reasons. Heinrich Himmler (SS) murdered all Jews - even little children and babies - because he said Jews are a superior biological race and if the Germans - in his eyes the other superior race - like to rule the world, then they had to eliminate all Jews.

    Indeed only one of 200 Germans was a Jew. And Jews had the same civil rights as all other Germans since some generations before the Nazis started with their continuous stream of anti-Semitic political propaganda. When the Nazis made the first racial laws in Germany in 1935 the world did not protest, because everywhere in the rest of the world existed racial laws too.

     
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    You see, that's what I was talking about; Hitler can't have any redeeming qualities, personal or organisational, because as the occidental antichrist, he is an avatar of evil, as everything that happens to get him in power was the result of, what, collective crazyness? The simple fact that you have a Hitler-like mustache, for exemple, makes you evil too. The guy was so "evil" that everything he touched, such as the ancient swatiska, is now tainted for eternity. No one today dares raise a palm down right hand because Hitler. You are a German, yes? Well, you should know that you can't have a regular german flag in your backyard without being taxed as a nazi by your own, brainwashed co-citizens.

    That kind of discussion is alright if you are 12 years old, disinformed, or not interested in the subject at all. More knowledgeable poeple can't buy this pathetic Kool-Aid - sorry.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Be Still and Know that I am God."
    I personally know many many older and more experienced than I that have had very personal encounters with God. They do not call themselves psychic or anything that would claim a "private interpretation" in order to glorify themselves. As C.S.Lewis pointed out in his book "Mere Christianity" God has implanted and given awareness to ALL humanity. Whether this is embraced or rejected it is up to them. This theme is reflected through Romans and through out scripture. One thing all these men and women have in common (including the women in this video) is the fact their awareness of Grace and what God has done for us came through the scriptures. They are of no "private interpretation". This lady has received a vision, from where I cannot pin down, that gives her a "private interpretation" that pretends to exceed the Body of Christ here on earth. She would make the "Body of Christ" to be of non-effect. In fact, there is a Body.....just as Jesus promised. Iron sharpens iron and she is a "lone wolf" with a private interpretation. There are far to many in tune with the Holy Spirit of God to give this one women credence for what she tries to teach.

    In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God.... my own idea of that Word defined is "God's representation of Himself to us".....that is also synomonous with Jesus (or Yeshua, or Joshua, whatever floats your boat) words are not restricted to their spiritual meaning. The Holy Spirit is our "teacher". God represented Himself to us through the Person of Jesus and recorded it for us to study and verify in His written Word. He does not send "pshchics" to give us entirely new understanding.

    God's Word is a miracle. It is "sharper than any two edged sword." It is His revelation to all of us. His Holy Spirit is the teacher. Why would God preserve His message in an imperfect Word to confuse us, then give a "private message" to this confused woman that makes us suspect of that revelation? Beware....it is a trick.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So do you embrace Universalism? All roads lead to God as this women from Alaska implies? Or is there a narrow gate?
     
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    No

    Antichrist? Strange idea. Hitler was a totally normal human being as everyone else. It think it was the manmade hell of world war 1, which made Hitler to Hitler.

    Perhaps he is the avatar of an evil joke.

    No - The winners of world war 1 - incompetent idiots as for example also politicians of the USA - created a mad situation after word war 1. All this solutions exploded in later years - some only a few years ago. After world war 1 Hitler was the mad man who was made together with this situation. Besides that it is not really crazy to let a mad man solve mad problems you should also not forget: In the last free elections of the republic of Weimar in November 1932 got the NSDAP only 1/3 of all votes. I doubt that the results of the elections in March 1933 were correct (about 50% for the NSDAP). Later he was much more popular - and this not only in Germany.

    The only thing what is a real mystery to me: Against all other German leaders together in the very long history of the Holy Empire and Germany were made less assassinations. More than 40 serious trials to kill Hitler existed. But all of this trials failed. Strange. We are damned bad in assassinations.

    Charly Chaplin? Hitler said by the way he had to cut his beard for the gas mask of world war 1. His beard remembered to the bestiality of world war 1. I guess it was poisoned gas which destroyed his brain so he became a man without any scruple.

    The Swastika was a popular symbol of friendship, joy and fun. He made it dynamic by turning it a little. By the way: Congratulation - the most people are not able to think in the logic of time. That's why some people for example thinking a Buddha with a swastika (centuries older than Hitler) has something to do with Nazis - what's nonsense. Hitler said it is a symbol of the pagan tradition "Midsummer", where wheels of fire are rolling from the mountains to the valleys. What's nonsense too. He did just simple symbolize the begin of a new age - the age of the Nazis. But I guess you can see in all this simple modern marketing strategies. He made an excellent logo.

    Exactly.

    Flag of Nazi-Germany:

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    Flag of Germany:

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    Some antifascists are by the way really totally stupid idiots who confuse the German flag with the Nazi flag and so on and so on. Today exists a lot of anti-fascistic nonsense - for example not to use the word "negro" (Neger, Mohr) in Germany any longer. I wonder myself why they do not try to forbid the word "Jew" (Jude) because someone could use it in a negative way.

     
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    It's clear that you are only repeating things you've heard. You are bent on pissing on Hitler, probably to demonstrate how much of a good person you are. It's can't be rationality. Why, culpability, much?

    I was talking about this flag here:

     
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    I often wonder.....why those of us in the Western world seem to occupy ourselves with Hitler as the embodiement of evil. Hasn't anyone heard of Joe Stalin? I think his death toll exceeded Hitlers almost double!
     
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    Because, like Napoleon (who generally get the same treatment in the Anglosphere), they dared oppose Anglo hegemony. Deep inside, there's no one Anglos fear more than the Germans.
     
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    Well it looks like the "Anglos" got it out of their system.
     
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    It's clear that you don't think on your own otherwise you had not said such a bullshit now.

    Funny. Who wastes piss water for such an *******? I would imprison him the next 20 billion years. This was the lifetime he had destroyed directly. And afterwards we will see what to do.

    What has your criminal pro-Nazi-attitude to do with our German flag and/or the government of the federal republic of Germany? Nothing at all isn't it? Only because you hate our country this makes nothing correct what you say about.

     
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    Anglos=Anglo-Saxons="Angeln" + "Sachsen" are German[ic]s from the North of Germany, Normans are Germanics too - and the Celts in England and the people in the South of Germany - for example the b-irish ("bayrisch"=bavarian) or the Austrians, Swiss, Alemans and Swabians (or Sueben) are very similar cultures.

     
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    What's the criteria to enter heaven or hell and how did Hitler measure up to that criteria?

    So did Hitler repent his sins?

    Did Hitler believe in Jesus; his death, his burial, and his resurrection from the dead?

    Did he obey God's word?

    When we work those out, we'll find his direction !!
     
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    Neither is for us to decide.
     
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    Or is it? Maybe we're the artisans of our own heavens/hells.

    I humbly have no idea.
     
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    ...and knowing won't help me pay my mortgage so it's a very low priority for me.
     
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    It can't help you pay your mortgage but it does can help you ignoring it...
     
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    I call Hitler and Stalin the left and right jawbone of the devil. The reason: While people thought they have to make a decision pro and/or anti Hitler/Stalin and fought for and/or against Hitler/Stalin and took care not to fall up and down into the throat of the evil dragon - the same time the devil bit them from the left and right direction against right and left and ate them in little portions of millions.

     
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    I took the liberty beginning a few years ago to rename several high level fallen angels........
    I renamed Lucifer... Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan and
    Azazel Baalzebub.. I renamed Abner Paul Azazel Baalzebub......

    I am attempting to get across the point that the most ancient Satan........
    is already a follower of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus..... to at least some degree......
    and actually wants his most well informed followers to follow the example of Mr. John Ramirez and
    become Christians..........

    ... .but.... I think he wants them to become well informed Christians along the line of the identical twin brother of Jesus.....
    Judas Didymus Thomas, (Doubting Thomas).........

    http://www.thomastwin.com/7 A Thomas samples.html
    Bruce F. MacDonald Ph.D:
     
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    i like that idea very much.......
    there are seven billion potential heavens or hells on this earth.......
    the hearts and minds of seven billion infinitely precious human lives.........

    Back in 1990 I began to pray with extra chutzpah and boldness........
    actually I was very rude to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus back in those days due to
    my disappointment..... and disillusionment with a plan of salvation that had....
    1. many called few chosen
    2 a broad way leading to destruction and many going in thereat.....
    3. a narrow way leading to life and few finding it.....
    4 and a negative afterlife environment so scary.... that it would be worthwhile in a sense for me to
    cut off my right hand.... .due to some of the places online that my mouse hand got me into over the last
    twenty years or so.........
    (Lately I am making some progress in that area.... .due to my feeling more pressure to mentor
    some very promising online students and teachers.... .who do a good job of showing me where I am
    significantly in error myself......)....... but hopefully I can have a generally positive effect on them as well.......
     
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    Actually.... several near death experiencers were shown that the most ancient part of our own souls......
    is what judges us.......
    we really judge ourselves.......

    Rabbi Alon Anava terms the most ancient part of our soul a "Shul"... (I think)....
    near death experiencer Christian Andreason was shown that our over soul... most ancient part of our soul......

    looks like:


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...reason-is-he-onto-something-important.401732/

    The Man on the Throne by Christian Andreason.... is he onto something important?

    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/
    Another near death experiencer was shown that there are 14 Elohim......
    Who speak in Genesis chapter 1..... seven male and seven female.....
    and every human being conceived receives part of this Elohim... as the first part of their soul......
    It is this most ancient version of us who goes through first trimester abortions..........
     
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    Actually....... my Anglo ancestors certainly feared a combined French plus First Nations army......
    in Newfoundland....... essentially total ethnic cleansing was the British policy.......
    but here in Nova Scotia my English ancestors so feared a combined French plus First Nations army......
    that they made alliances with the Mi'kmaq tribes.... and other tribes......
    because they knew that a combined French plus well equipped First Nations army... .could wipe out us English from Canada.......

    So essentially total ethnic cleansing was NOT the policy here........
    like it had been in Newfoundland.....

    We English wrestle with guilt that is right up there with the guilt of the German people who organized the holocaust on Jews, Jehovah's Witnesses, the LGBT community and Gypsies........
    not to mention what they did to the Slavs ....... and Russians.....
     
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    Actually I would say they are two left jaws.
     
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    To the deceased, it probably doesn't matter, but I'd rank Vlad the Impaler and Pol Pot as just as bad as Hitler.

    Another question: Is the person who kills a dozen, several dozens, tens of thousands, or a million any better than the person who kills tens of millions?
     
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