The Blue Muslim Wave: American Muslims launch political campaigns and hope to bring Trump 'justice'

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  1. Space_Time

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    Will this be any kind of factor in the upcoming elections? Will they be subject to 'Islamophobia'? Will any get elected?

     
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    anyone that runs on pushing Biblical or Sharia law should not be put in office

    religious freedom for all... is something both parties should support
     
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    Exactly, if they want to run fine, but we won't follow sharia law.
     
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    Don't you go telling Muslims what to do !
     
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    Uh oh ! What are you lefties gonna do now ?
     
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    The left will just at the chance to elect muslims to office, whether they wave the Koran in our faces or not

    Ametican liberals are downright suicidal when it comes to diversity
     
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    Yeah. Just be careful not to elect too much dual citizens next time.
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    You're going to follow Sharia law whether you want to or not. You see Sharia law in any area where Muslims are not the ones making the law is the law that's already there, so you ALREADY are following Sharia.

    You won't even notice it until Muslims become the majority and then this majority (the Ullema or body of believers,) will vote on the law they want, and this will be Sharia, for that is how Sharia is determined, by Democratic vote.

    I realize that Christians find it hard to face the idea that a religion is basically a democracy but that's the fact of the matter
     
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    It is good for all segments of our diverse country to participate in our republic. Different point of views lead to innovative solutions to issues. Though I hope more conservative Muslims run so both sides of the political spectrum can be represented.
     
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    It is not good that our country is diverse in the first place. Different points of view lead to divisiveness and gridlock. You can see it for yourself today.
     
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    And that's the end of your Progressive vision for society.

    You cool with that?
     
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    I cannot agree, over specialization leads to stagnation and rigidity. Only dynamic and forward thinking societies move forward throughout history. We just need to make sure we temper those things with logic and a sound moral compass. We can continue to accept new people and ideas into our society as long as we never forget who we as Americans are and what we stand for.
     
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    The problem is that there is no "we" anymore because of increased diversity. You are nostalgic for the days when the US was overwhelmingly white and decidedly Protestant. There is no longer an agreement on what a sound moral compass would be.

    There is no agreement on who we as Americans are or what we stand for. I should think that is obvious.

    Stagnation is preferable to disintegration, imo.
     
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    You may be buying into the media hype there. While there is a strong vocal minority advocating for extreme liberalism there is also a very strong base of Americans that not only remember what America stands for but are teaching their children. We have many problems in this country but they are problems that we can overcome by working together. We have survived much worse and will endure.
     
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    Which politicians represent that strong base?
     
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    I would check out the Libertarian party if I were you. Many fine candidates that promote American values and diversity.
     
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    :lol:

    That attitude is what's costing the GOP yugely. Give up the Muslim xenophobia and bigotry, please.
     
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    What's extreme liberalism?
     
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    Read my post again.

    The only way that what I describe could happen would be if Muslims become the majority and/or Islam becomes more enlightened. In regard to that I am reading a rather interesting book called The Islamic Enlightenment by Christopher de Bellaigue
     
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    It would be the outlier progressive ideas that that do not just advocate changing the system but actually destroying it in the name of their causes. Those that dont advocate for minority equality but for majority punishment. Those that dont advocate for ecological conservation but industrial destruction. Those that dont ask for judicial fairness but but judicial preference. Those that dont want to expand American exceptionalism but punish those that are exceptional. Basically extreme liberalism throws out the baby with the bathwater.

    Now Ultra Conservatism is exactly the same, to be frank fanatics are dangerous and rarely a positive force.
     
  21. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    How is the US, by far the most powerful and prosperous entity that has ever existed, "disintergating"?

    There is not now, nor has there ever been, any real agreement on who we are are or what we stand for. That is our unique strength, the reason we have become so successful and are now a shining beacon to all humanity of what our species may some day become. We live as individuals should. We each stand for our particular selves as part of a community of free people
     
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    See what you said there IS what we stand for, The individual. That one person is important and that they can go as far in this country as talent and luck can take them. We are a nation of supportive communities that your neighbors troubles are your own. That a person can believe what they want, say what they want, and be what they want and that the government will not stop them as long as they are not harming anyone else. That the USA is fundamentally good even when we make mistakes.
     
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    Surely you have read talk of California seceding or breaking into three states and other talk of another civil war. We are no longer one community and identity politics is getting rid of such ideas. The self is much less important that the group identity. Speakers start their speeches with tropes like "Speaking as a black woman ...," as if her (intersectional) identity is what lent weight to her ideas.
     
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    I did read your post correctly. I was asking how you would feel if Sharia law became the law of the land, obliterating all of your progressive dreams.

    Thanks for the pointer. I have read some reviews of your suggested book. It does look interesting.
     

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