NAACP blasts Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey over Confederate monument ad

You did not defeat anybody.

 

LOL, what?

 

Then where will the liberals flee too when they start fleeing the overtaxed states like California & New York?

 

Which brings us to today. What are American values?

 

What part of the confederacy represents American values?

 

I didn't say it did.

 

Then why does the south display their battleflag all over the place and fight to keep monuments of these traitors up?

 

• individual freedom (from government)
• self-reliance
• equality of opportunity (not equality of results)
• free market competition
• low taxes
• the American Dream (to own a home, material wealth)
• hard work
• freedom of religion (not freedom from religion)
• national security
• rule of law
• fiscal responsibility
• personal responsibility
• voluntary charity for the less fortunate (not forced at gunpoint)

"Man is not free unless government is limited. There is a clear cause and effect that is as neat and predictable as a law of physics: as government expands, liberty contracts." ... Ronald Reagan

 

The culture from Virginia to Texas is different than the culture from Maine to California. For most whites, the Confederate flag is simply a symbol of regional pride and it has nothing to do with race. For a few, it's a symbol of racism and "the good old days".

I lived my first 24 years in NY, CT, and IL. I'm a NYC native. But for the last 32 years, I've lived in Texas. I'm familiar with every angle on this issue.

Overall, I believe regional cultural differences are lessening, but they still exist. Even within the northern states, there are some subtle differences. For example, New England is culturally different than Nebraska.

 

Sorry but that excuse don't fly. If they wanted to rep their state flag that would fine. No one would bat an eye to that. The history of these states extends before and after the civil war. The Confederate battleflag represents the time the south went to war against its brothers in order to preserve the evil institution of slavery. To claim celebrating the rebel flag and the soldiers who fought for it is celebrating southern pride is as ridiculous as germans waving the nazi flag to celebrate German pride. That isn't a period in history to be proud of. Igniting civil war in order to preserve the ownership of other human beings is something they should be deeply ashamed of.

 

That's your view and you're free to believe and express it. That's not how Southerners see it.

 

No, I don't imagine they do. For all their talk of personal responsibility they refuse to take responsibility for the reasons of secession and the civil war. They prefer to live in a fantasy where they're noble heroes defending their homeland. They never want to acknowledge what atrocity their homeland was engaged in. When the north decided to end slavery the south took millions of Americans hostage. That's what those slaves were. Americans. The north invaded the south to rescue millions of captured Americans.

 

The NAACP, proof of self-inflicted inferiority.

 

The North invaded the South to save the Union.

Lincoln said: "If I could save the Union without freeing a slave, I would do it. If I could save the Union and free all of the slaves, I would do that. And if I could save the Union by freeing some and not others, I would do that.".

 

And the south seceded to save slavery. Honoring the rebel flag and rebel soldiers isn't about southern pride it's about Confederate pride and we can sit here and argue all day but no one buys that argument. It doesn't fool anyone. Let it go and just admit who you are. Though I guess I should find it amusing that in 2018 gay people are bursting out of the closet while racists are hiding it. Lol

 

Does anyone even pay attention to the NAACP any more?

They'll pay attention to YOU if you walk in to a meeting and remark about all the "colored" folks there.

 

So when and how did this metamorphosis take place.

 

they seem to have grabbed your attention.

 

Many in the North believed in the values of 1776 until the early/mid 20th century. Woodrow Wilson and then the New Deal are a good dividing line. At that point, many in the North began to believe in a powerful, activist government that could and should equalize incomes. Equality of opportunity was thrown overboard in favor of equality of results. This required a massive federal bureaucracy. Government became overbearing, with its tentacles everywhere. Good-bye 1776 and limited government.

The South has always had a suspicion and dislike of strong federal power. In the 19th century, when Washington's power was relatively limited, this suspicion and dislike concerned slavery and a federal government that appeared to be growing hostile to the "peculiar institution". It was a rational fear in defense of an indefensible social structure. But now (today) the government has become so massive and so oppressive, this Southern suspicion of big government may be the only thing preventing us form a dystopian future run by statists. The left's desire to increase government's control over our lives knows no limits.

 

A state can’t be invaded by a federal army. Southern states committed treason by attacking a federal outpost, and was subsequently put in their place.

 

so you are saying democrats of the south did it

 

Today, those advocating the values of 1776 are Republicans, although they frequently cave in legislation. Democrats are openly hostile to traditional values.

Rand Paul is probably the only national figure to truly support limited government.

 

Larry Johnson has to be one of your heroes. The righties on here will give him their full support.

 

We were and the citizens defended themselves.

 

When you can stop trying to rewrite history with your inflamatory "traitors" perhaps it can be discussed.