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  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure that you can back that up correct?

    I'm curious why you are so excited about this site. What is it going to do for you that current news "fact check" sites and Lefty blogs like Think Progress, TPM, and Media Matters are not already doing?
     
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  2. Lesh

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    So you're a fan of fake news.

    Got it
     
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  3. Lesh

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    Fact check sites didn't work very well in 2016...did they....

    Obviously not since there was so much of it
     
  4. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Luckily, I'm used to deciphering right wing gibberish though yours was particularly challenging. In the end, as I said (which you failed to refute) all the information necessary to evaluate the mission of the site is available by clicking the link.
    You aren't unique among The Following in going a bit berserk over the notion that your favorite hack sources are going to be eviscerated by a fact checking outfit. No need for you to be concerned. Just pull your tin foil hat on extra tight and you'll be fine.
     
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  5. Lesh

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    Facts are not open to debate. Should we have "debated" Pizzagate?

    If they do this right they will expose fake news with verifiable facts and links
     
  6. Medieval Man

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    This is a valid point.

    But it is the left's tendency to include Fast and Furious and Operation Cassandra, for example, as being the same caliber of 'fake news' as the pizza nonsense, that makes debate almost impossible with so many liberals/progressives/socialists...
     
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  7. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wouldn't that be great.........if when they do provide substantiation for their ratings The Following didn't choose to believe right wing media lies instead of the demonstrably provable facts. But we both know that isn't going to happen. Not as long as the self reinforcing right wing media bubble is around.
     
  8. Medieval Man

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    This might be a different animal, see my post #56 in this thread here:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...u-are-on-notice.531220/page-3#post-1068981681
     
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  9. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is indeed difficult to debate topics when both sides will not stipulate to the facts.

    https://thinkprogress.org/inspector...-clears-attorney-general-holder-ab9a97d5c9a5/
     
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    Mike Pence I don't get this he doesn't strike me as Ultra conservative. I was told he was profoundly homophobic by people who call themselves LGBT but when I look at what he says and does he strikes me as an ordinary conservative.
     
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  11. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "A Review of ATF’s Operation Fast and Furious and Related Matters"

    That's the title of the IG's report exonerating Holder. One which I'm sure will be rejected by Trumpette's. It's available by clicking the Think Progress link. You should read it.
     
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    He is a white Catholic .
     
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    I think his father or his mother was Jewish I don't remember but say that's not true I don't hear him talking about how he needs to gas the Jews for the Aryan race is superior so I don't know what really makes him a Nazi other than being called a racist doesn't work anymore so we're going to pick another word that's worse to try and get you to defend yourself.

    At this point if these people aren't calling me and not see it must mean I'm wrong.
     
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  14. Thought Criminal

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    You'd have to start at the beginning of the thread.

    The OP misled readers to believe the thread was about a website dedicated to attacking conservative news sources.

    It appears that the site presents itself as not being anti-conservative.

    It was dishonest and against forum rules.

    The rules state that posters can link articles supporting their premise. Therefore, readers might reasonably not have the expectation that a posted link will debunk the premise for the thread.
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    Any reason to suspect this will be materially different from PoliticalFact and Snoops.com in generating support for the leftist side of the news? I guess we will see.
     
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    Since those websites are purveyors of the kind of fake news this thread is about combatting...you don't have a case
     
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    Lee Atwater say's "For all the right wing nut conspiracy theory sites, and those that pretend not to be, there's a new way to expose your deceit.

    https://newsguardtechnologies.com/

    An informed, engaged public is democracy's strongest defense, and the Liar-in-Chief's worst nightmare.
    If we are to thrive as a country we must come to an agreement on what is the truth and what is not. I think this new site will help in that endeavor. At least to the extent the minions are willing to accept the truth. I have to admit, for that segment of the population, based on what I've seen on this board, I'm not optimistic. The best that can likely be hoped for is the persuadable middle will enlighten themselves with the facts and in so doing realize these right wing charlatan's goal is to obfuscate the truth, not reveal it".

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    While Truth and Cleanliness begins at home. First clean up your own politically biased pig sty before you start on your opponents.
     
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    Your facts are not facts because you say "fact".

    Either debate, or go away.
     
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    Maybe some of them are the equivalent of Vox, Daily KOS, TMZ, Huffpost, (none of which were mentioned), others are credible. You don't know what you're talking about.
     
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    My news sources are the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, Politico, and the POTUS channel on Sirius. I also often read The Economist,
    Wired, the New Yorker, and a few other magazines along those lines.

    As you will note, television is a secondary source of news. I watch Rachel Maddow's program. I am no concerned about her credibility, and take her bias for granted. When she gets something wrong, she usually admits it conspicuously on her program, something you will never see Sham Hammity do.

    I also listen to Fox for a while every day, as I noted. I don't watch. Actually, with any of cable TV news, you don't actually have to watch it, since it's mostly dialogue and talking heads.

    Maybe you can tell us what you think news is.
     
  21. Belch

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    Some moron saying "this is what I think" is meaningless. Maybe if they have their ducks in a row, I might be inclined to believe them, but that's no different from any other website out there.

    So what makes this site different?

    Not a damn thing.
     
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    News or truth? There's a difference.
     
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    Conservative talk radio is a sewer of lies, prejudices and vitriol. It's where the uninformed got to reassure morons that they know all they need to know, and where the presenters pander to the audience. The conservative talk radio audience is not very demanding, as long as the disc jockeys that star on it tell the audience what it already believes and don't get too far ahead.

    Fox is right wing talk radio with pictures. Journalism is conspicuous on Fox because there is so little of it. None after 6PM at all. Again, confirmation bias is the core of Fox News. Feeding he fears, prejudices and resentment of an elderly angry white base are what it it about. Which has nothing to do with news or journalism.
     
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    Two horses in a field. One black and one white.

    You want to "debate" that. In the right light on the right day that white horse might look grey...is that your idea of debate?

    Yea
     
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    Lyin' sack of Unamerican cheats is what it amounts to.
    We already have the good goods on Obama & Co.
    We already have the substance connected and the i's dotted.
    It's merely a matter of displaying the abject proof and
    unhypnotizing a public prone to sheer deceit,hoodwinking and
    fraternal lying.
     

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