Trump Pulls US Out Of Iran Deal

Kann man sagen. (That's one way of saying it.)

 

I used this metaphor only to show the difference. Germans use always lots of emotions:

joy
fear
anger
happiness
baby born
friend died
world war begins
car, computer or machine strikes

Furor teutonicus means "a mad, merciless, berserk rage in battle". Lucan said so in 65 AD. source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furor_Teutonicus.

 

Ok, you prefer a nuclear iran

Nothing I say will change your mind

But we here in America see it differently

 

Exactly

liberals think the crazy muslims will someday learn to be just like them

Bush thought so to with the invasion of Irac and his attempt at nation building

It failed and so will the liberal attempt to change muslims by bringing them here

 

I dont know much about macron

Maybe france is waking up to the muslim menace but if so its probably too little too late

In belguim one small town has become 90% muslim and totally alien to the native culture

I dont think the euros will resist submitting to the prophet much longer

 

You had something in your mind? Thought you are an US-American.

But what do you have in your mind about Persians?

 

If you think its in the best interest of germany to go down fighting with iran to bring islam to the world then the die is cast for you and for everyone

 

the persians who fled to America after the shah fell are very sane and moderate people for the most part

Those left behind are as crazy as loons

 

American treachery has had already 70 years to run free, but .....
"Alles hat ein Ende, nur die Wurst hat zwei" (Everything has an end except a sausage that has two)

 

error

 

We forgive you.

 

The Shah was an institution of the western world and the prisons of the shah were full of tortured political opponents. While our mass media showed a world full of luxuriancy, beauty and romance the people in Persia suffered. So I doubt about that you are able to say the people of the shah were "sane" and the others are "crazy as loons".

I have the feeling the Persians are in general friendly and well educated people. One problem is the ideology of their leaders, their political and religious elites. They are not able to discuss in public about the problems of their country. I don't know how far democracy is from their ways of life. For sure it is not good to try to bring the Iran in a situation, where the people have the feeling they have nothing to lose any longer. And I think the USA is somehow a kind of "coward" of world politics. You live behind the safety of two big oceans far away from every crisis in the world, except a self-made crisis. Nevertheless you seem to live always only in fear of everyone and everything. Whatever will happen in the Iran: The USA is save. And I find it very cheeky to try to tell nations like France or Italy or Germany or anyone else in Europe they have to agree with the totally stupid sanctions against the Iran. The USA decided to go alone - then go alone. Your way - not our way.

 

This is just sick fantasy, and wrong on multiple levels. Iran is not fighting to bring Islam to the world, and Islam is not even the issue anyway. Islam is by and large not extremist in nature. The Muslim world was long a center of science and education, after all. Sadly enough, our interference - America's, England's, France's in particular - has given rise to the kind of violent, Jihadist Islam that gave us 9/11. We got a dose of our own radical Islamic poison when that occurred. It grew from our policies and actions throughout the Middle East, from Israel and Saudi Arabia to Afghanistan. Our taking sides and messing around with their politics, supporting, arming and training extremists (to fight our chosen enemies on our behalf) and propping up dictators such as the Saudi royals and Saddam Hussein, made a royal mess of the region.

This can't go on indefinitely, especially with a moron like Trump doing his utmost to alienate our closest allies (except Israel, of course).

 

Yep. "Friends" purely of convenience, it would seem. That's apparently how the toxic right wing thinks.

 

This is absolutely not true. The treaty with the Iran is clear and the Iran fulfilled all conditions. As longs as it is in this way we are "vertragstreu" (=observant). There are now some new problems - for example rockets. But this is not part of this treaty and justifies not a breach of the treaty.

Everything what someone says changes my mind. But not always in a predictable way.

You see it differently because Donald Trump made a decision, where he asked no one - also not in the USA, or did he? Sanctions against the Iran found for sure not a majority in all nations of the western world. Most have the feeling it's not the right way to try to extinguish a not existing fire with fuel.

 

Actually, it does because I have a lot of experience being involved in and running political campaigns. We all have the same right, however, to register our opinions, even if some of us aren't educated or informed.

 

Message to the leftness....its ova! Trump brought, what is known as a Done Deal.




Get over it!.

 

So, then, you're going to claim everyone in the Holy Roman Empire was German? The HRE was not a modern state any more than the Ottoman Empire was.

 

The full title was Holy Roman Empire of German nation. So obviously it was Germany and saw itself as Germany

80% of its population was German.

According to you Egypt was founded as a state in 1953 and Russia in 1991.

Your claims are idiotic. Sorry but are you sure you are a history teacher?

Do you claim evryone on the Russian Federatio is Russian? If not, why you say Russia was a state before but Germany has no history, and vulture?

You never ehared about the Deutscher Bund?

I have news for you. Germany can be traced back 6500 years.

 

USA is far to insignificant to end the deal. As long Germany and Iran trades, the deal exist. Same counts about France, UK and China as well as Russia.

The only thing you achieve is to break evry alliance you have.

 

Geez, who the hell cares? When will Trump fix health care, stop "haves" from hiring illegals, or improve the economic position of the American worker? So far, the economy isn't growing any faster than it did under Obama.

 

What European leaders say in private to Trump and other world leaders can be quite different from what they tell their own hoi polloi.

Anti Americanism has been commonplace in Europe for centuries and used by politicians everywhere when forced to create an enemy for political ends. They create a problem and then claim that they alone can solve it.

Those posting the anti American tirades on these boards are fools, and their own leaders know that. They also know that it is much wiser to follow the lead of the US rather than Iran or Belgium.

 

That's all being done. There have been many hurdles placed in his way.

 

There is little evidence so far that your opinions are especially educated or well informed. In fact they tend to be beliefs, like this post, rather than anything based on fact. But, more importantly perhaps, your self esteem remains intact.

 

We lead. We dont follow. Thats what you will have to learn to accept. The majority of Germans want that Germany sticks to the deal. 80% to be exactly in polls