Ukraine should blow up Putin's Crimea bridge

Oh, hold on. I did what you asked, which is providing information you were totally unaware of. Now, rather than concede, you want to move the goalposts? Dearie, you've been infected by your Ukro-bros here on the forum.

Tell you what, though. Since I've established that the coup was illegitimate, it must be acknowledged that Yanukovich was still the legitimate president of Ukraine. As that legitimate president, he did ask Russia for help. Luckily for the Ukro-crazies in Kiev, Russia limited that help to freeing Crimea from their grasp.

 

Yanukovich was tossed in jail for fraud for up to $1.5 billion. Besides thread is about Crimea, Russia's illegal invasion and subsequent bridge.

You have now convinced me that the bridge should indeed be blown up in several places, I will start looking at the schematics.

 

You teach me nice staff. I like this saying about the elephant Well, my point was that the fact that if the majority (in this case international majority) believes that something is wrong (for example, annexion of Crimea), it does not mean that this is indeed wrong.

 

Likewise, you've now combined me you couldn't find your ass with the schematics of your pants in your hands.

Good luck!!

 

Ah yes, liberation Russian style.

 

I think that Russian style is better than American, when US "liberated" Belgrade from Serbs by bombing it to the grounds.

 

oh convinced.. you mean convinced... I wasn't trying to convince you of anything... you were the one trying to sell me a bridge

 

Got anything factual to post or is this just your usual dump on Russia tripe?

 

Sorry, sister .... it's over. Deflection is no substitute for substance, which you've shown a total lack of.

 

bye bridge

 

Yanukovich was the legitimate president of Ukraine and was voted in by a majority - and it was attested to by the UN observers. He was usurped by the 'Right Sector' Nazis and the paid protesters from the Western areas. Yanukovich was shot at and ran for his life with his family.

As long as he was alive, he was still the president of Ukraine. The same with the representatives at the Rada. Whoever was unwilling to go along with the junta, was threatened and forced to leave. Those who didn't were hanged on the street lights for everyone to see by the ruling mafia families.

The majority of people in Ukraine have no representation in the government. The Crimeans declared their independence when the Right Sector began killing and harassing their 300 protesters, and the Donbas held a referendum after they had burned and hacked 200 Russian speaking protesters in Odessa.

 

Save your energy, Jeannette. A nod is as good as a wink .... to a blind horse.

She's already reduced to posting irrelevant pictures. All that's left is to..... jump!!!!

 

The guy is up for treason, you don't commit treason then remain president

Ukraine starts treason trial of fugitive ex-president Yanukovich

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...of-fugitive-ex-president-yanukovich-1.3071639

 

x 9 just like destroyer

ps. I'm going for a run now... save your insults for later

 

Milosevic decided on an "adventure"....was he expecting to be greeted with open arms?


Russian style better"lol, lol, I'm still laughing.

 

( I think the irony was lost on him!)

 

Did he invite you in his country? Actually, bombing the civilian objects to the grounds without justification is the trademark of the US- the same was done for example with Dresden in Germany during WW2, when all the museums and historical buildings were destroyed for nothing.

 

1. Your response was far too emotional. Are you Ukrainian? I'm American and could care less about Crimea or Ukraine, so I'm not "jumping up and down" about it. Just pointing out that the MAJORITY of the people of Crimea are ethnic Russians and thus the referendum was a REFLECTION of the will of the PEOPLE and is actually a shining example of true Democracy.

2. I got the following quote from the article you cited...

"Russia may find that its support for Crimea’s independence might trigger referenda or secession movements that it opposes, such as in Chechnya."

Which I interpret as an implicit threat that the west may foment and support revolutionary action in regions that Russia has strategic or economic interests in. Nothing particularly surprising there though, as such policies are a Western TRADITION.

 

Seems Everytime there's a popular uprisings movement on the globe, most see it as a revolution for change....the trolls here see it as some sort of a coup d'etat....I guess some haven't evolved yet)!.

 

I think you need to evolve from the level of chickens that you grow to understand that what we see in Ukraine is an organized coup.

 

Well there's your problem right there... which you interpret any way you like to by changing facts. You can't just go chopping up pieces of countries then say they wanted to be Russian anyway. The referendum was highly irregular and most definitely illegal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_status_referendum,_2014

 

1. Crimea and all of Ukraine was once a part of the Soviet Union.

2. YES people CAN just chop pieces of a country. It's happened MANY times throughout history, especially when people want to form a new nation. That's how Ukraine became an independent nation to begin with in 1991.

3. Again, the MAJORITY of the population of Crimea are ethnic Russians, they wanted to reunify with Russia, so they voted on it and decided to do so. The rest of the population CAN leave Crimea and go into independent Ukrainian territory if they'd like.

The U.S. only cares because the location of Crimea gives Russia, which the U.S. sees as a rival, a strategic, geo-political advantage in the region.

4. I cannot change facts and the FACTS are that again, the MAJORITY of the Crimean population is ethnic Russian, that majority no longer wants to be ruled by Ukraine, so they decided to reunify with Russia. End of story.

I wonder if YOU will still hold to YOUR assertion that...

if, as suggested as a possibility in the article you originally cited, Chechnya decides it wants to become independent.

 

well go ahead and chop all you like, just don't expect the international community to turn a blind eye

 

When Crimea was liberated, the polite green men were greeted with flowers. When was the last time Americans were greeted with flowers.

It's not that they consider the annexation of Crimea wrong, it's that they are threatened by Washington. When a Russian at the UN asked Japan to point out in the charter where it was wrong to annex Crimea, he was unable to do so.

Hopefully nations will start having the courage to stand on their own feet, and oppose Washington. Iran might be a start.

 

Why do you feel you have to insult? Do you have a complex or something?