Are the Palestinians the Jews NOT expelled from Judaea after Bar Kochba Revolt?

And the Jewish women who survived the Bar Kochba Revolt.....
and were kept in the province of Judaea for the amusement of the Roman soldiers stationed there.....
the majority of them were not treated very well....
.. but many of them survived... and their children survived.........

 

The Demographics of the Palestinian Authority is interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Palestinian_territories#Religions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_Christians#Christian_emigration

 

The Palestinian Authority is deliberately chasing getting rid of Palestinian Christians.


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/talking/59_ChristiansPA.html

 

This certainly helps to explain why so many Jews converted to Islam
over the centuries.


http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=485350&page=2&p=1066845923#post1066845923

Thread: Balata's Palestinians - We do not want to fight Israel, but our corrupted leaders
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Not if the Petra Project or something similar goes through
and an extra two hundred million cubic meters of ocean water are taken to
the area of the Dead Sea by a tunnel............ used for generation of hydro-electricity on the way there....
and then desalinated for agriculture, for industry... and for towns.

 

FYI.......

 

Is it true that Arafat was actually an Egyptian?

http://www.tldm.org/news9/russianinfluenceonmideast.htm

 

BUNK!




National Geographic map in 1947:

 

I’m sure there’s some relationship. Genetic studies have repeatedly affirmed that Jewish people are related to other middle eastern (particularly Levantine) populations. Much of this genetic similarity undoubtedly predates the coalescence of Jewish identity, but in the end it still shows that both populations have similar origins in that region.

As for the Palestinians, they are probably a mishmash of Semitic and Mediterranean populations who have at various times spoken northwest Semitic languages like Hebrew and Aramaic, as well as Greek before finally speaking Arabic. Their ancestry probably reflects all of these influences. Perhaps a little Mesopotamian, Iranian, and Caucasian influence as well, given the history of the region.

Are they descended from Jewish people? Probably a little. And many of their ancestors were Semites who probably at least shared ancestors with the ancient Hebrews.

 

Most Arabs who live in the holy land which call themselves "Palestinians" are Bedouins !
There was No such thing as Palestinian 60 years ago.
The son of 1000 Sharmutot - Araffat - invented that name.
When Bedouin tribes from Egypt, Syria, Iraq etc .. found that the Jews are changing the area from desert to oasis they moved their.
Before 1967 the "West Bank" ( Judaia and Samaria ) were under Jordanian flag not Paleshtino flag.

 

Shlomo Sand, Israeli professor wrote a book "The Invention of the Jewish People", in which he claims that the majority of the Jewish people are descendant from other nations while the Palestinians are descendants of biblical Jews – I read it – very convincing.

Even it is this is true – it does not reduce any rights to Jew for their own country – unless you are a racist and you think that a race somehow gives you special rights.

 

Try looking for stuff in Youtube by Dr. Keydar.
He knows the facts about the Middle East.

 

Wrong as usual, an invented history. Eastern European land thieves began the colonisation of Palestine as soon as the the British and Arabs had chased the Ottomans away for them. In 1912 roughly 80% of people were Muslims with a rough 10% each being Christian and Jew.

 

Araffat , Father of the "Palestinian nation" was not called the son of 1000 Sharmutot ?
Before 1967 the "West Bank" ( Judaia and Samaria ) were under Jordanian flag or Paleshtino flag ?
Telling a lie 100 times will not turn it to true.
Palestinian wall of lies.

 

RiaRaeb, wrong! Jewish immigration to Palestine began long before British and Arabs(?) chased away Ottomans. <<< MODERATOR EDIT: FLAMEBAIT >>>
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Aliyah

Zalek Bloom

 

I’m skeptical of both of your claims. The region of the Levant has been continuously inhabited for many thousands of years, and people from that region (including Jews and Palestinians) share genetic similarities to this day. The Palestinians are not just Bedouins, and the first Israeli’s were not just “Eastern European.” Although many of them were basically thieves.

 

The "Palestinians" are Bedouins.
Settlers who came to the holy land in the last century from Egypt, Jordan, Syria and other Arab countries.
There was NO such thing as "Arab Palestinians" before Arafat , the son of 1000 Sharmutot, invented that name.
BTW - I am not a Jew, and i know that many of the Christians are basically thieves.... and many of the Muslims are basically thieves.. and Hindus .. etc..

 

Palestinians are not Bedouins but a mixture of different populations which always lived in Palestine or migrated to Palestine – Jews, Greeks, Arabs, Egyptians and more.
Today by checking the DNA we can have a clear picture who they are.
If they want to be called “Palestinians” – they can, as North American Indians can call themselves “Natives” or “Original Americans”.

The origins of the Palestinians or origins of the Jews has nothing to do with the right of Jews to live in Israel. Jews have right to live in Israel even if the Jews ancestors were Eskimos. Why? Because Israel exist and up to now it is the most democratic country in the Middle East.

Zalek Bloom

 

Well, I think we can go further than that.

By international law as backed by the USA, people have rights to their property. It doesn't matter how/whether the borders of countries change, where people's ancestors are from, whether they choose a democratic form of government, etc. If a border changes, those whose residence becomes part of another country become full citizens of that country.

We also believe in self governance. Being ruled by the military justice system of a foreign country in which the population has no voting rights is NOT acceptable.

If a country chooses to allow immigration, those who immigrate become under the law of that country.

By international law, ethnic cleansing is a crime. Plus, America stands against apartheid or any other form of unequal treatment based on ethnicity (etc.). So, the "who are your parents", "what happened in Biblical times" is all PURE CRAP.

 

I do not see ANY justification for suggesting that ANY of this stuff of yours is of ANY consequence.

If I own my property, that can not be taken away on the grounds of who my parents are or the date I acquired the property.

It's fun and games to discuss genealogy, movement of peoples, etc., but that is PURELY recreational.

 

I see both sides of this debate. On one hand, a person deserves to live somewhere if it is the only land they have ever known. Even if you’re the first generation in a particular place, you have rights there.

On the other hand, it is not radical to say that the wealth and land of this world are not distributed based on merit. There is a large discrepancy between the “haves” and the “have-nots.” In many cases, we have to look at history to see where this unfairness came from. So even if the first Israeli’s were all dead, I would say that their past actions still matter today.

Anyway, it looks like over 70% of Palestine was Arab even under British administration. Of these, a little over 100,000 were in fact Bedouins, which is significant, but less than a quarter of the Arab population recorded in the census from that time.

 

I could be wrong but I think that many more Jews may soon leave Germany.... to make Aliyah to Israel.

Bavaria orders Christian crosses in all state buildings

 

Can you further explain your post in terms of the topic of the thread?

 

You won't like this.......
but when Bavaria moves closer to Christianity........
Jews still living in Europe will of course begin to wonder if it is time to make Aliyah to Israel........
which will make better relations between Palestinians and Israelis all the more necessary..........

..... because if the Palestinians are not careful......
a huge deal could be made with the nation of Jordan.

Near death experiencer shown peace deal between Jordan and Israel is coming.


Dannion Brinkley:

My understanding of the probable implications of Multiverse Theory makes it appear to me that this already happened in another time line....... (and does not have to be repeated)........... but it could be done again if it appears that there is no other way to have a home for so many Jews making Aliyah to Israel.

 

Well, you know what I think about near death experience.

It's slightly disturbing that a pattern of Jewish escape from Christianity would result in need for better relations between Jews and Muslims.

How about better relations between Christians and Jews?

Maybe Israel could move toward being a nation accepting of all religions (like the USA) rather than being a Jewish state with Christians and Muslims being second class citizens?