Can you be liberal and Christian at the same time?

I love it when atheists try to teach me my religion, as if they know, and unlike liberals, Jesus knows there are only two genders and marriage is for men and women.

 

Taxes are high because that's what leftwits do when they get power, they rob the population.

 

I love it when self proclaimed "experts" with a mail order diploma from BillyBob's Theological Seminary and Car Wash project their confirmation bias.

 

Isn’t education for all your morality also? There were things that the state denied me and I guess you would say giving women equal rights was enforcing my version of morality.Again I ask you what does the state enforce that goes against your morality.

 

While the selfless alt right would never dream of outsourcing the jobs of hardworking Americans and stripmine the wealth out of their homes and 401k's....NOT!

 

Yep, those billionaires and you are happy with the tax structure. They get millions and you get pennies...Of course you don’t want to pay a fair share of taxes so let’s cut education and infrastructure etc

 

Same with teachers..they can’t afford to live where they teach. When my daughter move to DC she qualified for a poverty loan. She was a teacher with a masters degree. She was smart and used it to buy a condo and now it pays for the mortgage on a home they bought

 

Ah. I see you DO know I can supply proof that you are very happy have the state force your morality on others. Good for you.

You never did answer my question - given you believe it is OK for the state to force a version of morality on others, what will you say when someone tries to take away, in toto, your right to an abortion, because it is the right thing to do?

 

I know literally a thousand teachers that will tell you otherwise. Professors, too.

 

There again is the fake scenario. Because I support public education you conclude I have the state forcing morality on others.
You are totally irrational and this is just a waste of time. If a state forces some version of morality on something that I think is wrong, I will do what I did in the past. I will be part of a movement and I will elect people who support me.Too many thought that women didn’t deserve equality, then we imposed our morality on others and women gained rights. . Many people thought that segregation was moral and it was imposed on black people. Then there was action and activism and we see the results.
Should we have no laws?
If people try to make abortion illegal, I will take action. You act as though we all have the same definition of morality. I think the worst of morality is the man in the White House

 

I thought we were talking about expensive cities .

 

You must have forgotten that the forced morality issue came up when discussing health care, and how you are quite happy to have the state force people to pay for the health care of the poor because your version of morality says it is the right thing to do.

So, I ask again:
What will you say when someone tries to take away, in toto, your right to an abortion, because it is the right thing to do?

 

Your statement - Same with teachers..they can’t afford to live where they teach - is plenary and inclusive.

 

I know what could be worse than having to help the needy. And those old people, mooching...they should die also. I guess your morality is different from mine, thank goodness I don’t think like you. As you see your morality is different from my morality. Who defines?
I answered your question already what I would do if they took away my right to an abortion. I would do the same thing I did to get the right to an abortion. Be part of a movement and elect people who support my views

 

I just explained my mistake....please, please forgive me.
Cities like New York, like Seattle like Atlanta etc. are getting more and more expensive and teachers cannot afford to live there

 

We've a'ready established you are more than happy to have the state force people to abide by your version or morality, and you agree. We get it.

You left about the part about whining and kicking and screaming and crying about how it is wrong for people to use the state to force their version of morality on you.

 

Over and over, repeat till you understand this.

Democrats are not liberal. They use it as a cloak to hide what they truly do. They are masters of creating laws. The rule makers make rules not to help you, but to hand the rule makers ever more and more power over humans.
I can prove easily that Democrats are our nations makers of rules and regulations. When some are to be removed, they commence the caterwauling and screaming we republicans only want to remove laws and regulations.

 

My daughter the principle of a school seems to afford her life there. She afforded it when she was a teacher too. There is at Hawaii.

 

Prior to the supreme court ruling known as Roe v Wade, just why do you believe state laws protected the unborn child? Why is it that in state upon state, the child was valuable to the point law protected it?

When you make a mistake and use pencil, you use the eraser. If the ink from the pen has dried, the eraser no longer helps. Democrats need to see the child as the protected class.

 

Here is a NEWSFLASH!

When the GOP remove laws and regulations they ENABLE CRIMINALS like the the Wall Street Casino Banksters to STEAL money from hardworking Americans and NEVER go to jail for their crimes.

What Scott Pruitt is currently doing to the EPA regulations is going to cause HARM to your children and grandchildren.

This is what the GOP always does to We the People.

No, I do not expect you to ever understand these facts because of your confirmation bias that is always on display in the content of your posts.

Have a nice day!

 

What is interesting about schools is that they do include teaching morals. A lot of teaching happens when the students are not aware they are being taught. Why do so many teachers end up being democrats? I prefer you do not pull a con job by saying teachers would not teach what they believe is moral. Democrats believe they have a duty to make sure children learn to be good Democrats. There are ways for teachers to make that point and yet the students won't write it down.

Democrats select the books used in schools. That is very important. And you go on and on over segregation. Look, this was a problem in local areas. We never segregated in CA nor most states. And why did states segregate? Do you not believe they had reasons? Even wrong reasons are still reasons. I still wonder what rights you speak of as to women's rights.

I do have one good example. I encountered this early in my real estate career as to the incomes used to buy homes. The mans income always got counted 100 percent. In the very early 1970's, the wife's income only counted 100 percent if she was a professional. The working wife who was not professional's income was only counted to offset the family debts. So she did get part of her income counted. She came in handy since this freed up the entire husbands income for debt service on the home loan. Still it was wrong and the law solved that problem. This was done nationally and not merely here in CA. I had cases where the wife earned more per month than her husband did but hers was only used to offset the family debt. It caused plenty of troubles until the problem got fixed by a law change.

Legislatively abortions did not get changed. Even today state after state fights the court ruling. So it is legislatively we know the will of the public and not inside the court room.

Many people realize well that courts are not the same all over. They are ranked from Republican leaning to Democratic party leaning. The Supreme Court members are assumed to support one of the two parties or the other.

 

I am more than likely a lot older than you. i used to be like you. I know what it is like to hate the world. Hate the rich. Hate those you feel subservient to. All that pent up hate has to do something or go someplace.

The people you call Wall St Casino Banksters are normal educated businessmen and women. That you see them there to steal from me or you means you are paranoid.

What crimes? Ever hear of Elizabeth Holmes? She is charged for such theft. The courts are busy with criminals who made their living in business crime. I do not say there is none, but not to the extent you believe, where you blast a entire class of humans by calling them all criminals.

Scott Pruitt definitely is not harming America. Such claims are puffery on your part.

I had the same hostile attitude you have for a very very long time. I remained loyal to your party until my then age of 42 and i was hard core Democrat. I once thought of all republicans as my arch enemy and arch criminals. I had the bad case you have.

I was never able to be persuaded on any issue by republicans then. I was as solid as steel we then democrats were right and they were completely full of manure.

I was WRONG. You are too.

What turned me around was by fate i happened on a book and read it. At first it looked to me like it trashed republicans so hell yes, i wanted more of it. But as it turns out, it tells how government really does work.

This book is at my hands daily. It is that good.

 

If helping the needy is forcing my morality, then so be it. I am forced to do a lot of things I don’t approve of like pollute the environment
I keep asking and you don’t answer what is forced on youth at you find Immoral? Like desegregation? Do you oppose free education forced on you? Do you oppose clean air? Do you oppose food inspection? You seem to do a lot of whining that the state is forcing things on you, but then you don’t answer and instead attack me. I guess that’s your example of morality. Attack the messengers

 

I am probably close to your age and I have always been a Democrat. I guess caring about others is a youth thing and then some people age and stop caring about others. And they become just the way you claim you were in your youth, but instead of seeing republicans as evil, you see democrats. I tend to think you are an extremist you laud people like Pruitt who is despicable and you don’t see his behavior as disturbing, using your position to get favors is ok with you.
Rich People on Wall Street are not all bad people nor are poor people on welfare. My husband walked away from Wall Street in his forties because of how it was changing .....greed was rampant
Your values changed obviously, thank goodness I still have the same values

 

Desegregation has been around for something like 60 years as I recall, clean air for 40 or 50 years, food inspection, same thing. That is yesterday's news, your detractors are talking about TODAY.