Everyone knows the truth but politics and hate Trump gets in the way

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Everyone including left wingers know the truth about criminal invaders crossing the border with children. Criminals get thrown in jail and separated from their children. But------------------the simple fact remains, dont become a criminal invader and you wont be separated from your children. But------------------the radical left wing hate Trump BS kicks in, and they blame him. Time for the left to get over their hate Trump nonsense and place the blame where it really belongs.
     
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    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    Everyone knows this is a distraction from Trump bringing the Korean war to a peaceful conclusion along with another escaped slave from the democrat plantation Denis Rodman and the fact that the IG report comes out with nothing on Trump.
     
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    Sirius Black Well-Known Member

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    "Everyone knows" is about the strongest evidence one can use to justify an argument.
     
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    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah that's strong proof. Sometimes "people are saying," "It's obvious that," "everybody is talking about," can be effective too.
     
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    And everybody knows it’s not the Christian (or humane) thing to do, as well.
     
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    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    And everyone knows that its more nuanced than black and white...
     
  7. GoogleMurrayBookchin

    GoogleMurrayBookchin Banned

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    concentration camps for children.

    concentration camps for ****ing children.

    having a hard time seeing how anything can justify that
     
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    I know right, like Obama just didn't care about the ones that couldn't vote and held them ransom till the parents voted for Hillary.

    I say just deport them all and stop the incentives of being in America and having no job.
     
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    GoogleMurrayBookchin Banned

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    obama sucks too, do you have an intelligent point to make or are you just going to yell "but obama" every time someone points out an ongoing human rights abuse?
     
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    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    LOL! How many nukes did Jong-un give up?
     
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    Yeah, christians. :rolleyes: That has been reduced to a joke!

    Jeff Sessions announced the new policy of separating families. That is why this became an issue.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Kind of like the lefties declaring "the debate is over" when it comes to globull warming.
     
  13. Sirius Black

    Sirius Black Well-Known Member

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    Here is how President Trump can escape the blame and take this issue away from his adversaries. Stop separating children from their parents.
     
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    Whats the "rights" abuse? Honestly, they've more than likely already been raped and drugged before getting to the camp. Probably the best food and security they've ever had. But the families should be reunited...in mexico.
     
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    No, that had been a policy put in place during Obama years from one of his federal court activist judges. This isn't new, Jeff just said he would enforce the law that was already in place. Imagine that, someone following the law. *gasp*
     
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    And send them all back together.
     
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    reports on the conditions in these camps have been thorough and widespread enough that you have no excuse for being this ignorant
     
  18. Gdawg007

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    Here are some truths, since you claim to be all about it.

    The offense for entering the US is a misdemeanor with a maximum jail sentence of 6 months. Here is a sample of some misdemeanors, which vary by state for sure, that have similar maximum penalties.

    • All City/Municipal Ordinance Violations (unless designated otherwise)
    • All County Ordinance Violations (unless designated otherwise)
    • Assault
    • Altered Registration License Plate or Validation Sticker
    • Attach Registration License Plate or Validation Sticker Not Assigned Criminal Mischief (Damage up to $200)
    • Culpable Negligence (Exposing to Injury)
    • Disorderly Conduct
    • Disorderly Intoxication
    • Driving While License Suspended/Revoked (1st Offense)
    • Driving Without a Valid License
    • Driving While License Revoked as Habitual Traffic Offender (1st Offense)
    • Expired Registration More Than 6 Months (2nd Offense)
    • Failure to Obey Police Officer
    • Failure to Sign Summons/Citation
    • False Report to a Law Enforcement Officer
    • Gambling
    • Leaving the Scene of Accident/Crash
    • Loitering or Prowling
    • Obscene/Harassing Phone Calls
    • Prostitution (1St Offense)
    • Selling Alcoholic Beverage to Person Under 21 Years of Age
    • Possession of Alcoholic Beverage Under 21 Years of Age
    • Theft (1st Offense and Value of Property Taken Less than $100)
    • Trespass (Without notice or warning)
    • Unauthorized Use/Possession of Driver's License/I.D.
    • Unlawful Use of Temporary Tag
    So being here illegally, and taking a job and working, to me is closer to disorderly conduct than assault. As you can see, this list has a wide range of crimes and if you are being truthful and honest, you would admit that you would punish an offender of each of these crimes differently. As in, someone who assaults someone would be treated harhser than someone who is driving without a valid license, right? The answer is yes, don't bother saying anything else.

    Secondly, if ANY one in this country was arrested for any of these crimes, their "separation" from their children would be minimal. They could visit their children as part of visitation in prison. Are these children of immigrants getting that? Sounds like no.

    Furthermore, the only point of separating the children, as admitted by the moron you are supporting which not sure what that says about you, is for political leverage. Talk about a stupid thing to say out loud. And a stupid thing to support out loud. He basically told all democrats, just wait until one of these children gets hurt or killed in detention, and then you can fry me in the mid terms...

    Good luck with this strategy!
     
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    I think most Americans would support this solution. Even those who don't see illegal immigration as a big deal. Plus, it would be politically much smarter.
     
  20. Wildjoker5

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    Still the best they've probably ever had.
     
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    so like, are you going to try to pretend the way these children are treated is acceptable, or are you just going to keep spouting cliches so you don't need to think about it anymore?
     
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    Not a chance in hell
     
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    Once they have bee legally processed I can agree with you on this.
     
  24. Wildjoker5

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    I think they need to go back where their parents came from like Ellian.
     
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    Does everyone charged with a misdemeanor deserve to have their children taken away and put in a detention facility?
     

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