"The North Koreans were just messing around, not serious about moving forward"

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah no one in history put that much debt on the US. Not even close. Not even combined.
     
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    Stop using the Hannity talking points.
     
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    Except for when it was over 3%?
     
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    You mean facts?
     
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    As usually libs out in front of their skis. Let me know when NK tests another bom to fires another missle. Libs expecting this to be a quick fix shows how delusional you are.
     
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    I mean horseshit.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So he didn't put more on the debt than any other administration in history?

    Is that your belief?
     
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    He had to get us out of a recession didn't he.
     
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    Oh I'm not blaming Obama for all of that. He did have a tough beginning there.

    I mean honestly it wasn't really Bush's fault either. (and I'm no fan of Bush either).

    The problem is that they were bailing out the people who caused the problem, and spending money on things that didn't really help the recession.

    10 trillion dollars is a RIDICULOUS sum. You have to admit man.

    We could build 335 thirty-three BILLION dollar walls with that money.
     
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    Just before Kim Jong Un agreed to disarm and meet with Trump, he had taken a trip to China to talk to XI. Immediately afterward, Kim was high as a kite enthusiastic about meeting with Trump. Was that because Kim has underground tunnels to China allowing him to send all those missiles to them to hold for him? Did they do that thinking they could pull this off without Pompeo and John Bolton knowing? At any rate, I don't think Kim Jong Un had any intention of disarming. Can't trust that sociopath.

    https://www.dailynk.com/english/underground-tunnels-built-for-kim/
     
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    And yet, most major news outlets(and military ones specifically) refer to it in today's terms. You can still bomb from the air with modern weaponry.
     
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    Plus it's a very relaxing hobby.
     
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    Well, According to actual US Treasury Dept numbers and not those you pull from your ass, we see that Obama DID add more to the debt than any previous President - he did not, as you claim, add more than their combined debt, and as percentage increases, 2 of the last three Republicans Presidents beat him out. We also see Trump on course to be close to Obama's numbers.

    Ronald Reagan added $1.86 trillion to the debt - a 186% increase
    GHW Bush added $1.554 trillion to the debt - a 54% increase.
    Bill Clinton added $1.39 trillion to the debt - a 32% increase.
    G Bush added $5.849 trillion to the debt - a 101% increase.
    Obama added $8.58 trillion to the debt - a 74% increase.

    Trump in FY 2018, added 1.233 trillion to the debt.
    Trump in FY 2019 projected to add $1.225 trillion to the debt.
    Puts him on track to tie Obama.

    All numbers from the historical tables of the US Treasury Dept.
     
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    Trumped got clowned for a photo op.
     
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    So more than both Bushes and Clinton combined. Got it.

    Thanks for the numbers.
     
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    Yeah that photo op and $5.00 will get him a nice cup of coffee.

    He could take those photos and show him to his people and have more vote for him!

    Oh no!

    We've put the NK elections in jeopardy for next year!

    We're worse than Ruuuussiiiiaaaa :(
     
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    Yeah, you’re right! They will make great propaganda.

    That’s why Kim outdealed the Don.
     
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    As a percentage? No.
    Is it one of Obama's great failings? Yes.

    Did Obama have the poorest economic starting point on day one? Yes.
    Did he buy his way out of a recession just like Reagan? Yes.

    But I got to ask - what's Trump's f**king excuse? He's going to raise the debt another $4 trillion+ but he's got a stable economy from day one and he doesn't NEED to stimulate the economy with spending. He just likes to spend.
     
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    Uhhhhh you were doing ok until you got to "just like Reagan".

    I'm gonna have to give you a big "cash for clunkers" nooooooo on that one.

    You don't know what Trump is going to add to the debt because A) Spending is the job of Congress (you might go back and look at the budget he requested, which was MUCH less) and B) HASN'T HAPPENED YET
     
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    For who?

    Who does Kim show these glorious pictures to and get into Disneyland for free?
     
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    now with the trade war China is much less likely to help us with NK.

    nice going, President Chump.
     
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    Trump knows that NK is full of it. Rumor is the mountain demolition was due to a failed nuke test according to seismic tests in the area. Their whole testing facility is kaput. Oh sure you can release the sanctions now and stop war games while we rebuild. Denuclearize was lost in translation. Agree that NK is China and to some degree Russia's puppet. Really where do you think they are getting all this tech? NK is asking for trouble and Trump is the one to deliver.
     
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    Trump has given NK lots of time to increase their nuclear arsenal and make their missiles better,
     
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    Moronic reply on your part.

    You're claiming that Reagan and Trump aren't responsible for the debt because Congress is solely responsible - so Obama IS responsible for the debt because Congress didn't exist whole he was President? WTF? Lame-assed excuse.
     
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    And that's with the Tea Party Conservatives taking office. Can you imagine if we had a Liberal Congress post-ACA? It would've been overkill.
     
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