Paragraph 44 of the indictment

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  1. dave8383

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    If you really knew anything you wouldn't connect Mueller with the noun sloth. So thanks for the tip as to who/what you are, and aren't.
     
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    Because this thread is about paragraph 44.... When you want to talk about paragraph 43, I suggest a different thread...

    Anyway paragraph 43 is just about as interesting as paragraph 44... I'm guessing the candidate in subsection A is sh*tting bricks this morning....

    Any guesses on who these folks are?? I've read the candidate is probably from a Florida race and might even be a Democrat....
     
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    This might have been quicker if the DNC turned over their servers to the FBI instead of Crowdstrike.
     
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    Its about Stone who already testified to congress about the omg tweet that anyone could see at the time and anyone can still see.
     
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    But then who would have scrubbed all the damning info from the DNC?
     
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    Perhaps these are the master hacker and spies that played Pokemon Go and posted on facebook.
     
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    Also not breaking news that Stone claimed Guccifer 2.0 wasn't the Russians... This will be the first (and last) time I use Breitbart as a source

    SNIP
    I have some news for Hillary and Democrats—I think I’ve got the real culprit. It doesn’t seem to be the Russians that hacked the DNC, but instead a hacker who goes by the name of Guccifer 2.0.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.breitbart.com/2016-pres...y-dnc-hack-solved-so-now-stop-blaming-russia/
     
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    See, again, this isn't about which party you belong to, or who you voted for. It's about a foreign power attacking our political system.
     
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    LOL somebody knew somebody that knew somebody that knew somebody that knew Trump. That's what you're excited about? LMAO
     
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    yes it is. 100%

    the Obama administration knew of Russian meddling months before Trump took Hillary to the woodshed.

    they did next to nothing. and the few things they did do were frustrated by the DNC's refusal to permit the FBI to investigate their servers for evidence of hacking. which is weird....you know, if Russian meddling was/is the crime of the century...

    no, it was only after the election than anyone really even cared about Russian meddling...which Obama himself acknowledged "dates back to the Soviet Union"
     
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    Really?? Roger Stone isn't mentioned in paragraph 44... Are you 100% stating Stone is the person listed in paragraph 44??

    Cool.... Even Roger was going back and forth yesterday...
     
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    Some people think Clinton paying a foreign actor to compose a fake dossier to be used to open the door to spying on an opponents campaign (which she did) is a big deal.
     
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    I see, so you don't care? Illuminating.
     
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    Ahh no. You are confusing her official emails with the DNC/Campaign emails. The 30,000 he was JOKING about were her State Department emails which belong to us the people and she was trying to hide from archiving but had already been hacked by a foreign actor.
     
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    I am a taxpayer who's invested a lot of money in Bob Mueller. I'm a potential grand jurist, as I'm a registered voter, and I would have voted to indict Russian GRU officers on the flimsiest of evidence ... a year ago. The indictment is for optics. A very expensive display of angst that serves only a political purpose. Putin is going to point to the kangaroo court procedings already underway, from which Mueller is already distancing himself, and claim it's all propaganda. Which it essentially is, given the GRU officers will never surrender themselves, or be arrested by Interpol, as bogus Bob didn't take these new "states" allegations to the IJC in Hague. Sloth BTW can be interpreted as a verb, or an adjective in my context ... not a noun.
     
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    I think Mueller probably has one of this wall boards with notes, pictures, and treads on it (like you see in the detective shows), and that Roger Stone was at the top of the pyramid from day one.
     
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    Stone wasntnin regular contact with the Trunk campaign and nine if the Americans the Russians tried to hack or work through knew they were Russians.
    So whats your point here?
     
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    Leftists.
     
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    Well, not the VERY top....

    I'm guessing level 2 is Stone, Manafort, Cohen.... what individual connects all three of those guys?? hmmmmmm...
     
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    :) No.

    Mueller is doing what he was asked to do, the way it should, and needs, to be done. Now, indicting Russian intelligence officers on the flimsiest of evidence would have been sloth.
     
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    You are definitely not a potential grand juror. Not on any case related to the Trump Administration.

    And why should any American care of pay attention to anything Vladimir Putin might point to. (other than Donald Trump, of course).

    Yes, this is a speaking indictment.

    It tells the world a few things, and hints heavily at what the Mueller probe does know but has not publicly revealed. Both the GRU staff, Putin, Roger Stone, Trump, Trump Jr and the rest of them all know this.

    It also puts Trump in the position of having to face Putin after being handed solid evidence (down to names named) of Russian interference in the American political election.

    He can either do his duty as an American and confront Putin over this, or he can play Putin's poodle as he has been doing.

    Considering Trump spent two days publically attacking Germany for buying gas from Russia (which they have been doing for 50 year), insulting the German Chancellor and the British Prime Minister, one would expect Trump to rebuke Putin in public, considering the circumstances.

    Congress has already belatedly stepped up once to affirm American commitments to its allies, dispite the President's ridiculous and self destructive antics.

    They may have to do so again, in more forceful ways.
     
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    SNIP
    On Friday, Stone’s lawyer, Grant Smith, told The Post that his client had no contact with the Russians: “t is clear from the indictment issued today that [Stone] was not in any way involved with any of the alleged hacking of the 2016 election.”
    ENDSNIP

    If he's the person mentioned in paragraph 44 (and the Vegas odds are down to 1-1), the indictment makes it clear Stone had contact with the Russians doing the hacking...100%.... He MAY not have known who Guccifer 2.0 and he MAY not have been the go between between Wikileaks and Guccifer, but we'll have to wait until Stone's indictment to find that out.

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    The unanswered question is whether there's a connection between what WikiLeaks released and what Stone knew or didn't know. Stone claimed during the campaign he was in contact with the WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange, and he even publicly bragged that Assange “will educate the American people soon” on Clinton.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-russians-for-hacking/?utm_term=.9f47c6c10c47

    P.S. The Mueller indictments are actually very easy to read... I thought they'd be full of legalese, but they're very clear...
     
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    One way to counter that might be for these campaigns to automatically make all their emails public, and have all their phone calls and meetings recorded. Transparency, transparency, transparency.
     
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    It's not that I don't care, it's that I'm smart enough to understand that countries, including the US, have been meddling in and trying to influence each other's politics forever. No one cared when Russia meddled in the Obama/McCain race...no one cared when Russia meddled in the McCain/Romney race....no one cared when Obama meddled in Israel's politics...no one cared when Obama meddled in the Brexit vote...

    no, it was not until leftists were denied what leftists feel they are entitled (permanent presidential power) did meddling become the crime of the century.
     
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