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This is Outrageous

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Aleksander Ulyanov, Jul 17, 2018.

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  1. Liberty Monkey

    Liberty Monkey Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you on that but I think we might be using fix to mean different things lol.
     
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    Liberty Monkey, Jul 17, 2018
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  2. Bridget

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    They're only trying to make money without earning it by using a bad thing that happened to them. In my world, you don't get paid for every bad thing that happens to you.
     
    Bridget, Jul 17, 2018
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  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    The businesses automated our jobs out of existence and they still couldn't meet the Chinese price so they had Big Don make us foot the bill to keep their profits high, Tariffs are TAXES and they are placed on US, not them. You're just screwing the poor majority of us to benefit the rich minority of you and I don't believe in those kinds of minority rights.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Jul 17, 2018
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  4. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and yet donald is being proven correct.
     
    AlphaOmega, Jul 17, 2018
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    They in this last sentence is referring to the HOTEL!!!!!!
     
    Capt Nice, Jul 17, 2018
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  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    His tariffs have just begun, their baleful effects take time
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Jul 17, 2018
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  7. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so youre guessing.
     
    AlphaOmega, Jul 17, 2018
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  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    No, predicting, based on all the economic theory I know. You're just guessing too by that token, and you are going against all economic history there is since the 1800s and before. Tariffs. Don't. Work. They are generally economically ruinous in all but a very few special cases.
     
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  9. AlphaOmega

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    Actually Im going by the job stats and my insane portfolio under Trump.
     
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    AlphaOmega, Jul 17, 2018
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    Perhaps but they often run away from reality. Is reality a thing ?
     
    Giftedone, Jul 17, 2018
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  11. Liberty Monkey

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    Immigration at the border would suggest it was democrats who've tucked their tail between the legs and ran as fast from reality as they could.
     
    Liberty Monkey, Jul 17, 2018
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    No doubt .. but your claim was in relation to Republicans .. so I was sticking to the point.
     
    Giftedone, Jul 17, 2018
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    Then explain precisely how the hotel in question holds any responsibility or liability for the actions of Stephen Paddock. Precisely what course of action did they engage in, or refrained from engaging in, that would otherwise make them guilty of anything?
     
    Xenamnes, Jul 17, 2018
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    The one being accused has the same right as the accuser in determining who will be hearing and judging the case. The last time it was checked, innocent until proven guilty is the motto of the united states. Since the hotel chain is presently innocent under the law, they cannot be denied having a say in the matter.
     
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    No they are feathering their nests.
     
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  16. chris155au

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    They're not, nobody has said that they ARE, but how is the hotel responsible?
     
    chris155au, Jul 18, 2018
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  17. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Their lawyer says that the Hotel violated most of the precepts in the Active Shooter Protocols they had been trained in by the Dept of Homeland Security. INALB AFAICT The Hotel is apparently suing the victims because they say that just being trained in the ASP covers their liability even though they then ignored the protocols entirely

    There are times I'm really very glad I failed the LSAT. (yeh, yeh, so are you, the USA and the spirit of Hammurabi)
     
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    In that case, there's obviously more to this case than I thought. However, if they carried out the Active Shooter Protocols 100% perfectly, how could it have stopped or minimized the damage of the shooting? Active Shooter Protocols for a hotel would seem to me to be focused on protecting the guests of the hotel, not have anything to do with people on the outside, in this case, the people of the music concert.

    WTF?

    They're not suing them are they? They're simply defending themselves. They're not chasing money from the victims' families are they?

    Am I suppose to know what the spirit of Hammurabi is?
     
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    Unfortunately the liberal actors didnot leave America as they promised
     
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    From within?
     
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  21. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Extreme rightists in our government and our electorate threaten our nation and our freedom. it is our duty to resist them.
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Jul 19, 2018
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  22. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Just as the right wingers who are always saying they will take their money and leave if they are taxed never do. Where you make your home is more than a matter of taxes or laws.
     
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  23. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    They want to get out of liability just for KNOWING what they were supposed to do, even though they didn't do it. The victims will have medical bills alone totaling millions. The Hotel enabled this guy, it doesn't matter if they knew about it or not. If you have a pool and don't fence it you are going to pay heavily if somebody drowns in it, even if they are functioning adults and you were not even home. (in my state you may even go to jail)



    Sorry, I was taught history, not spelling

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Jul 19, 2018
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    What were they supposed to do in your mind?

    Even if they did whatever it is that you think they should've done, wouldn't they still have "enabled" him?

    Not including if someone breaks into your property though right?
     
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    There were no conservative actors or public figures who threatened to leave the US

    Taking their football and going away is a liberal thing
     
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