Can You Prove Trump Lied Ever? With The Exact Quote And Link?

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    Seen this thread posted in a Facebook group and I decided to post it here, it may be interesting to see if someone here can prove Trump lied to the satisfaction of a Trump supporter.. The OP goes like this:

    Many on the left say that Trump lies. Some say he lies all day long, and that he tells thousands of lies per day, and so on. Every time I ask Lefties to provide proof of ONE alleged lie, they go silent. On the odd occasion someone rattle off examples from the top of their head instead of providing an exact quote.

    Trump is an honest man so it’s doubtful you will find any legitimate lies. And remember, a “view” or a “belief” is not a lie. You would be using the wrong word. He might be wrong about something, but if he believed it when he said it, it is not a lie. Likewise, if he jokingly said, “I am the best President and I've done greater things than anyone in history,” to which I agree, but if you don't--that is not a lie – So libs, I dare you to prove that Trump lied, ever, about anything -- and provide proof.
     
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    Seriously?
    "Hello, my name is John Miller."
     
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    He lied about stormy and mcdoogle. Ill compile a list for you since you find this hard to believe somehow even though every word out of his mouth is a lie.
     
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    Actually someone has already done it.
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html

    JAN. 21 “I wasn't a fan of Iraq. I didn't want to go into Iraq.” (He was for an invasion before he was against it.) JAN. 21 “A reporter for Time magazine — and I have been on their cover 14 or 15 times. I think we have the all-time record in the history of Time magazine.” (Trump was on the cover 11 times and Nixon appeared 55 times.) JAN. 23 “Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote.” (There's no evidence of illegal voting.) JAN. 25 “Now, the audience was the biggest ever. But this crowd was massive. Look how far back it goes. This crowd was massive.” (Official aerial photos show Obama's 2009 inauguration was much more heavily attended.) JAN. 25 “Take a look at the Pew reports (which show voter fraud.)” (The report never mentioned voter fraud.) JAN. 25 “You had millions of people that now aren't insured anymore.”(The real number is less than 1 million, according to the Urban Institute.) JAN. 25 “So, look, when President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech. You can't have that.” (There were no gun homicide victims in Chicago that day.) JAN. 26 “We've taken in tens of thousands of people. We know nothing about them. They can say they vet them. They didn't vet them. They have no papers. How can you vet somebody when you don't know anything about them and you have no papers? How do you vet them? You can't.”(Vetting lasts up to two years.) JAN. 26 “I cut off hundreds of millions of dollars off one particular plane, hundreds of millions of dollars in a short period of time. It wasn't like I spent, like, weeks, hours, less than hours, and many, many hundreds of millions of dollars. And the plane's going to be better.” (Most of the cuts were already planned.) JAN. 28 “The coverage about me in the @nytimes and the @washingtonpost has been so false and angry that the Times actually apologized to its dwindling subscribers and readers.” (It never apologized.) JAN. 29 “The Cuban-Americans, I got 84 percent of that vote.” (There is no support for this.) JAN. 30 “Only 109 people out of 325,000 were detained and held for questioning. Big problems at airports were caused by Delta computer outage.” (At least 746 people were detained and processed, and the Delta outage happened two days later.) FEB. 3 “Professional anarchists, thugs and paid protesters are proving the point of the millions of people who voted to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” (There is no evidence of paid protesters.) FEB. 4 “After being forced to apologize for its bad and inaccurate coverage of me after winning the election, the FAKE NEWS @nytimes is still lost!” (It never apologized.) FEB. 5 “We had 109 people out of hundreds of thousands of travelers and all we did was vet those people very, very carefully.” (About 60,000 people were affected.) FEB. 6 “I have already saved more than $700 million when I got involved in the negotiation on the F-35.” (Much of the price drop was projected before Trump took office.) FEB. 6 “It's gotten to a point where it is not even being reported. And in many cases, the very, very dishonest press doesn't want to report it.”(Terrorism has been reported on, often in detail.) FEB. 6 “The failing @nytimes was forced to apologize to its subscribers for the poor reporting it did on my election win. Now they are worse!” (It didn't apologize.) FEB. 6 “And the previous administration allowed it to happen because we shouldn't have been in Iraq, but we shouldn't have gotten out the way we got out. It created a vacuum, ISIS was formed.” (The group’s origins date to 2004.) FEB. 7 “And yet the murder rate in our country is the highest it’s been in 47 years, right? Did you know that? Forty-seven years.” (It was higher in the 1980s and '90s.) FEB. 7 “I saved more than $600 million. I got involved in negotiation on a fighter jet, the F-35.” (The Defense Department projected this price drop before Trump took office.) FEB. 9 “Chris Cuomo, in his interview with Sen. Blumenthal, never asked him about his long-term lie about his brave ‘service’ in Vietnam. FAKE NEWS!” (It was part of Cuomo's first question.) FEB. 9 “Sen. Richard Blumenthal now misrepresents what Judge Gorsuch told him?”(The Gorsuch comments were later corroborated.) FEB. 10 “I don’t know about it. I haven’t seen it. What report is that?” (Trump knew about Flynn's actions for weeks.) FEB. 12 “Just leaving Florida. Big crowds of enthusiastic supporters lining the road that the FAKE NEWS media refuses to mention. Very dishonest!” (The media did cover it.) FEB. 16 “We got 306 because people came out and voted like they've never seen before so that's the way it goes. I guess it was the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan.” (George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and Barack Obama all won bigger margins in the Electoral College.) FEB. 16 “That’s the other thing that was wrong with the travel ban. You had Delta with a massive problem with their computer system at the airports.” (Delta's problems happened two days later.) FEB. 16 “Walmart announced it will create 10,000 jobs in the United States just this year because of our various plans and initiatives.” (The jobs are a result of its investment plans announced in Oct. 2016.) FEB. 16 “When WikiLeaks, which I had nothing to do with, comes out and happens to give, they’re not giving classified information.” (Not always. They have released classified information in the past.) FEB. 16 “We had a very smooth rollout of the travel ban. But we had a bad court. Got a bad decision.” (The rollout was chaotic.) FEB. 16 “They’re giving stuff — what was said at an office about Hillary cheating on the debates. Which, by the way, nobody mentions. Nobody mentions that Hillary received the questions to the debates.” (It was widely covered.) FEB. 18 “And there was no way to vet those people. There was no documentation. There was no nothing.” (Refugees receive multiple background checks, taking up to two years.) FEB. 18 “You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?”(Trump implied there was a terror attack in Sweden, but there was no such attack.) FEB. 24 “By the way, you folks are in here — this place is packed, there are lines that go back six blocks.” (There was no evidence of long lines.) FEB. 24 “ICE came and endorsed me.” (Only its union did.) FEB. 24 “Obamacare covers very few people — and remember, deduct from the number all of the people that had great health care that they loved that was taken away from them — it was taken away from them.” (Obamacare other countries.”(The U.S. has a trade surplus with more than 100 countries.) JULY 31 “2.6 is a number that nobody thought they’d see for a long period of time.”(Many experts predicted economic growth at least this high.) JULY 31 “And even the President of Mexico called me – they said their southern border, very few people are coming because they know they’re not going to get through our border, which is the ultimate compliment.” (Mexico's president


    The list is much bigger but exceeds the character limit.
     
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    Trump claims that the Queen of England made her first review of her Honor Guard in 70 years to celebrate his visit.

    Of course the next day pictures of Obama and the Queen reviewing the Guard show up in the papers and Britons are quick to
    point out that the Queen has only been on the throne 66 years.

    Lie number ... oh god. We lost count.
     
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    She hasn't even been queen for 70 years lol. There are literally thousands and this cultist can't think of one? Hahaha
     
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    Wow this was a difficult test!!!

    https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/
     
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    Trump lied to his first wife about an affair.

    Trump's mistress then publicly confronted Wife #1 and told her of the affair.

    But I guess the OP won't count that as a lie.
     
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    Trump lied to all his workers in his casino in Atlantic City. He promised them pension funds as part of their hiring contract - then gutted the funds and
    sold off what was left.

    But I guess the OP won't count that as a lie.
     
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    The tax cuts were going to cost him!..............Riiiiiiiiiiight!...Freken Lier!
     
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    You really have to share the name of that Facebook group. I have a bridge to sell.
     
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    I am going to try that John Miller line and see if this guy would admit it is a lie or claim Trump was just joking or actually believed he is John Miller.
     
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    So many lies, so little time!
     
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    "I'm not the puppet, you're the puppet"..............biggest lie of all ;).
     
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    But is it a lie, if Putin tells him what to say?.....Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
     
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    The lie is that he is not the puppet ;) at all..........of course he is Putin's puppet.
     
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    Are you going to address the many Trump lies that have been listed in your thread ... or just sheepishly call them "jokes" and pretend they never happened.

    Not really a question. We know you're going pretend it never happened.
     
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    *crickets*
     
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    The crickets are for the fact you can't read -- let me help you out

    "Seen this thread posted in a Facebook group and I decided to post it here, it may be interesting to see if someone here can prove Trump lied to the satisfaction of a Trump supporter.. The OP goes like this"

    Seems your reading comprehension skills have failed you -- I don't have to address any of these lies because I am not a Trump supporter ....
     
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    /thread and vanish into thin air.

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    The name of the group is Trump Crusaders or something to that effect
     
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    Sounds Russian
     
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    If you are short on examples, you aren't really looking. Here's one: Trump told the students of Trump University that the curriculum was based on his real estate secrets and was taught by his hand-picked teachers. He later testified before the court that this was untrue.
     
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    Well the fact that Trump's lies or misleading statements are a matter of record, there is little to no discussion here.
     
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    O...M....G

    Trump Worship Syndrome on full display.

    +++

    Trump lies 7/1/15-7/1/16

    Trump "pants on fire" statements 7/1/15 to 7/1/16

    "We don't know anything about Hillary in terms of religion. Now, she's been in the public eye for years and years, and yet there's no — there's nothing out there."

    Says Hillary Clinton "has even deleted this record of total support (for the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement) from her book."

    "For the amount of money Hillary Clinton would like to spend on refugees, we could rebuild every inner city in America."

    "The Obama administration was actively supporting Al Qaeda in Iraq, the terrorist group that became the Islamic State."

    "Crime is rising."

    "I wanted to keep it private, because I don't think it's anybody's business if I want to send money to the vets."

    It "is Hillary Clinton's agenda" to "release the violent criminals from jail. She wants them all released."

    "Look, we are at war with these people and they don't wear uniforms. … This is a war against people that are vicious, violent people, that we have no idea who they are, where they come from. We are allowing tens of thousands of them into our country now."

    Says Ted Cruz’s father "was with Lee Harvey Oswald" before the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

    "Frankly, (Hillary Clinton) doesn’t do very well with women."

    The 2016 federal omnibus spending bill "funds illegal immigrants coming in and through your border, right through Phoenix."

    Says that when Michelle Fields "found out that there was a security camera, and that they had her on tape, all of a sudden that story changed."

    "Out of 67 counties (in Florida), I won 66, which is unprecedented. It's never happened before."

    "I don't know anything about David Duke."

    Says Ted Cruz "said I was in favor in Libya. I never discussed that subject."

    Says that in the Philippines more than a century ago, Gen. John Pershing "took 50 bullets, and he dipped them in pigs’ blood," and shot 49 Muslim rebels. "The 50th person, he said, ‘You go back to your people, and you tell them what happened.’ And for 25 years, there wasn’t a problem."

    "Don't believe those phony numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5 percent unemployment. The number's probably 28, 29, as high as 35. In fact, I even heard recently 42 percent."

    A Trump television ad shows Mexicans swarming over "our southern border."

    President Barack Obama "wants to take in 250,000 (people) from Syria."

    Says crime statistics show blacks kill 81 percent of white homicide victims.

    "I watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering" as the World Trade Center collapsed.

    The federal government is sending refugees to states with governors who are "Republicans, not to the Democrats."

    The Trans-Pacific Partnership "was designed for China to come in, as they always do, through the back door and totally take advantage of everyone."

    "I never said that" Marco Rubio was Mark Zuckerberg’s personal senator.

    Says Bernie Sanders is going to "tax you people at 90 percent."

    The unemployment rate may be as high as "42 percent."

    "The Mexican government ... they send the bad ones over."

    The number of illegal immigrants in the United States is "30 million, it could be 34 million."

    "The Mexican government forces many bad people into our country."


    All from 7/1/15-7/1/16, all:

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    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/rulings/pants-fire/?page=1

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    Trump false statements 7/1/15-7/1/16

    Says Hillary Clinton "filibustered legislation to reform" Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

    Says Hillary Clinton’s immigration platform would "create totally open borders."

    The Benghazi victims were "left helpless to die as Hillary Clinton soundly slept in her bed."

    "Because of Obamacare, you have so many part-time jobs."

    "I was among the earliest to criticize the rush to war (in Iraq), and yes, even before the war ever started."

    Even among "second and third generation" Muslims in the United States, "there's no real assimilation."

    There is "no system to vet" refugees from the Middle East.

    We’ve broken "by millions" the all-time record for votes in a GOP presidential primary election.

    "There are places in America that are among the most dangerous in the world. You go to places like Oakland. Or Ferguson. The crime numbers are worse. Seriously."

    Says Hillary Clinton "wants to abolish the Second Amendment."

    "You have to be a citizen to vote," but with same-day voter registration, "you have places where people just walk in and vote."

    "We're the highest taxed nation in the world."

    "In the history of Republican primaries, I’ve gotten the most votes in the history of the Republican party."

    ISIS is making millions of dollars a week selling Libyan oil."

    "I was totally against the war in Iraq, saying for many years that it would destabilize the Middle East."

    The Colorado caucus system for selecting Republican delegates is "rigged."

    Says Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio "had it set so that the winner takes everything, because they wanted to make sure that I didn't get anything" in the Florida primary.

    "My numbers are better right now than Ronald Reagan's numbers were with Jimmy Carter."

    Says Ted Cruz distributed the ad showing a nude Melania Trump on a rug.

    Wisconsin’s "effective" unemployment rate is 20 percent.

    "When those restrictions expire (in the Iran nuclear deal), Iran will have an industrial-size military nuclear capability ready to go."

    The Trump Winery near Charlottesville, Va. is the "largest winery on the East Coast."

    Under the Iran nuclear deal, "we give them $150 billion, we get nothing."

    Says the man who rushed the stage at him in Dayton, Ohio, "had chatter about ISIS, or with ISIS" in his social media posts.

    "GDP was zero essentially for the last two quarters."

    Common Core is "education through Washington D.C."

    The wives of the 9/11 hijackers "knew exactly what was happening" and went back to Saudi Arabia two days before the attacks to watch their husbands on television flying the planes.

    Says Mahatma Gandhi once said, "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

    Says "the New York Times can write a story that they know is false" yet "they can't basically be sued."

    "We (Trump University) have an ‘A’ from the Better Business Bureau."

    When Mitt Romney chose Paul Ryan as his vice-presidential running mate, "that was the end" of Romney’s chances to win.

    "If it weren’t for me … (illegal immigration) wouldn’t even be a big subject."

    "Right now we’re the highest taxed country in the world."

    "I never once asked that (Megyn Kelly) be removed" as a debate moderator.

    Says Mexico can afford to build a wall because the country's trade deficit with America is billions of dollars.

    Among Syrian refugees and migrants coming into Europe, "there look like very few women. Very few children."

    The five Guantanamo detainees swapped for Bowe Bergdahl are "back on the battlefield."

    Canadian-born Ted Cruz "has had a double passport."

    The 9/11 terrorists' friends, family, girlfriends in the United States "were sent back for the most part to Saudi Arabia. They knew what was going on. They went home, and they wanted to watch their boyfriends on television."

    Says his plan would cut taxes without increasing the deficit.

    Says Ohio Gov. John Kasich "got lucky with a thing called fracking," which "is why Ohio is doing well."

    "Sixty-one percent of our bridges are in trouble."

    Says CIA Director George Tenet told the Bush administration that the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attack "was coming. So they did have advanced notice."

    "We have the highest tax rate anywhere in the world."

    Among Syrian refugees, "there aren't that many women, there aren't that many children."

    "The birther movement was started by Hillary Clinton in 2008. She was all in!"

    Says Mexico doesn't have birthright citizenship, and Americans are the "only ones" to have it.

    Under the Iran deal: "If Israel attacks Iran … we’re supposed to be on Iran’s side."

    "We have 93 million people out of work. They look for jobs, they give up, and all of a sudden, statistically, they're considered employed."

    "We’re the most highly taxed nation in the world."

    "Some of the things that (Megyn Kelly) said, I didn’t say."

    Illegal immigration "wasn’t a subject that was on anybody’s mind until I brought it up at my announcement."

    Under President Barack Obama, income levels and unemployment numbers "are worse now than just about ever" for African-Americans.

    The five Guantanamo detainees swapped for Bowe Bergdahl "are right now back on the battlefield."

    Says John McCain "has done nothing to help the vets."

    "If you're from Syria and you're a Christian, you cannot come into this country" as a refugee.

    Says Florida had five sanctuary cities while Jeb Bush was governor.

    "The $5 billion website for Obamacare … never worked. Still doesn't work."

    Says his book, The Art of the Deal, is "the No. 1 selling business book of all time."


    All in 7/1/15-7/1/16, all:

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    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/?page=1
     
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