Can You Prove Trump Lied Ever? With The Exact Quote And Link?

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    Trump lies 7/1/16 to 7/1/17

    Trump "pants on fire" lies 7/1/16 to 7/1/17

    "This Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should've won."

    Before the presidential campaign, "I didn't know Steve (Bannon)."

    Terrorism and terrorist attacks in the United States and Europe have "gotten to a point where it's not even being reported."

    "If Russia, or some other entity, was hacking, why did the White House wait so long to act? Why did they only complain after Hillary lost?"

    There was "serious voter fraud" in Virginia.

    There was "serious voter fraud" in New Hampshire.

    There was "serious voter fraud" in California.

    Says he "won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally."

    Says that at a campaign rally President Barack Obama "spent so much time screaming at a protester, and frankly it was a disgrace."

    Says Hillary Clinton "wants to let people just pour in. You could have 650 million people pour in and we do nothing about it. Think of it. That’s what could happen. You triple the size of our country in one week."

    "Wikileaks also shows how John Podesta rigged the polls by oversampling Democrats, a voter suppression technique."

    When Hillary Clinton "ran the State Department, $6 billion was missing. How do you miss $6 billion? You ran the State Department, $6 billion was either stolen — they don't know."

    "It’s possible that non-citizen voters were responsible for Obama’s 2008 victory in North Carolina."

    "Of course, there is large scale voter fraud happening on and before election day."

    "We don't have any" chess grandmasters in the United States.

    Says he won the second debate with Hillary Clinton "in a landslide" in "every poll."

    Says a tweet he sent out "wasn’t saying, ‘check out a sex tape.’ It was just ‘take a look at" the background of Alicia Machado.

    “Our African-American communities are absolutely in the worst shape they've ever been in before. Ever. Ever. Ever."

    Says a tweet he sent out "wasn’t saying, ‘check out a sex tape.’ It was just ‘take a look at" the background of Alicia Machado.

    "I finished" the controversy about where President Barack Obama was born.

    “My opponent has no child care plan."

    Says Hillary Clinton has "not answered a single question" about her immigration plan.

    The number of illegal immigrants "could be 3 million. It could be 30 million."
    Donald Trump is wrong that 'inner-city crime is reaching record levels'

    Says the U.S. election system is "rigged."

    Says Barack Obama "founded ISIS. I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton."

    "Hillary Clinton says she wants to, ‘raise taxes on the middle class.’ "

    "I’m beating (Kelly Ayotte) in the polls by a lot."

    "We have a fire marshal that said, 'Oh we can't allow more people’ ... And the reason they won't let them in is because they don't know what the hell they're doing."

    "As usual, Hillary & the Dems are trying to rig the debates so 2 are up against major NFL games."

    On gift taking, "Bob McDonnell took a fraction of what (Tim) Kaine took."

    Says Ted Cruz "never denied" his father was photographed with Lee Harvey Oswald.


    All in the year from 7/1/16 - 7/1/17 all:

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    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/rulings/pants-fire/?page=1

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    Trump false statements 7/1/16-7/1/17

    "We're pretty much at the 50 percent mark" on deportations of MS-13 gang members.

    "China will be allowed to build hundreds of additional coal plants. So we can’t build the plants, but they can, according to this (Paris) agreement."

    "At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is ‘no reason to be alarmed!’ "

    Deals struck on his first foreign trip as president made and saved "millions of jobs."

    "Dems want billions to go to Insurance Companies to bail out donors"

    "No administration has accomplished more in the first 90 days."

    "All pipelines that are coming into this country from now on has to be American steel."

    "The weak illegal immigration policies of the Obama Admin. allowed bad MS 13 gangs to form in cities across U.S. We are removing them fast!"

    "When you look for a job, you can't find it and you give up. You are now considered statistically employed."

    "The NSA and FBI tell Congress that Russia did not influence electoral process."

    "Germany owes ... vast sums of money to NATO & the United States must be paid more for the powerful, and very expensive, defense it provides to Germany!"

    Says "the New York Times wrote about" Barack Obama wiretapping Donald Trump during the election.

    "Look at what’s happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this? Sweden. They took in large numbers. They’re having problems like they never thought possible."

    "While on FAKE NEWS @CNN, Bernie Sanders was cut off for using the term fake news to describe the network. They said technical difficulties!"

    Says CNN’s Chris Cuomo "never asked" Sen. Richard Blumenthal about Blumenthal's misstatements on his own service in Vietnam.

    "The murder rate in our country is the highest it’s been in 47 years."

    Says "109 people out of hundreds of thousands of travelers" were affected by the immigration executive order.

    "If you were a Muslim, you could come in, if you were a Christian, it was impossible."

    "Here in Philadelphia murder has been steady — I mean — just terribly increasing."

    "The media ... sort of made it sound like I had a feud with the intelligence community."

    Americans don't "care at all" about Donald Trump's tax returns.

    "We had a massive landslide victory, as you know, in the Electoral College."

    "The @nytimes sent a letter to their subscribers apologizing for their BAD coverage of me."

    The @nytimes states today that DJT believes ‘more countries should acquire nuclear weapons.’ How dishonest are they. I never said this!"

    Beyonce and Jay Z, I like them, I like them ... I get bigger crowds than they do. It's true. I get far bigger crowds."

    "I have tremendous support from women."

    The media "never show crowds."

    "Twitter, Google and Facebook are burying the FBI criminal investigation of Clinton. Very dishonest media!"

    Says Ohio’s I-X Center "used to be a great plant," but "thousands of people of worked here, and they left" when their jobs were moved overseas.

    "14 percent of noncitizens are registered to vote."

    The stories from women saying he groped or forced himself on them "largely have been debunked."

    Says Hillary Clinton is "wrong" to say he mocked a disabled reporter.

    Says Hillary Clinton was "let off the hook" for her email scandal while Gen. David Petraeus had his life "destroyed for doing far, far less."

    "I've gotten to see the commercials that they did on you. And I've gotten to see some of the most vicious commercials I've ever seen of Michelle Obama talking about you, Hillary."

    Says Sidney Blumenthal wrote that the Benghazi attack was "almost certainly preventable. Clinton was in charge of the State Department, and it failed to protect U.S. personnel and an American consulate in Libya."

    Says after Hillary Clinton helped a man accused of raping a 12-year-old, "she's seen laughing on two separate occasions, laughing at the girl who was raped."

    Says Hillary Clinton "wants to go to a single-payer plan" for health care

    Says he has "a fiduciary responsibility to his business, his family and his employees to pay no more tax than legally required."

    "In her campaign for president, Hillary Clinton has received $100 million in contributions from Wall Street and hedge funds."

    Says to Hillary Clinton, "You heard what I said about (the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal), and all of a sudden you were against it."

    "NATO is opening up a major terror division. ... I'm sure I'm not going to get credit for it, but that was largely because of what I was saying and my criticism of NATO."

    Says "Hillary Clinton's plan would bring in 620,000 refugees in her first term, alone, with no effective way to screen or vet them. Her plan would cost $400 billion in terms of lifetime welfare and entitlement costs."

    Says Hillary Clinton’s energy agenda "will cost the U.S. economy over $5 trillion"

    Says top Clinton advisers "were pressing" birther movement stories "very hard."

    "I did not support the war in Iraq … The record shows that I’m right."

    "You will learn more about Donald Trump by going down to the Federal Elections" to see the financial disclosure form than by looking at tax returns.

    "I never said" that Muslims would be subject to profiling under his policies.

    "Hillary Clinton and her campaign of 2008 started the birther controversy."

    "Our veterans, in many cases, are being treated worse than illegal immigrants."

    "I was totally against the war in Iraq."

    "I released the most extensive financial review of anybody in the history of politics. … You don't learn much in a tax return."

    As governor, Tim Kaine "oversaw a huge increase in illegal immigration, a tremendous increase."

    Says Hillary Clinton "wants to raise taxes on African-American owned businesses to as much as nearly 50 percent more than they're paying now."

    Says Hillary Clinton is "proposing to print instant work permits for millions of illegal immigrants to come in and take everybody's jobs, including low-income African-Americans."

    "I had previously said that NATO was obsolete because it failed to deal adequately with terrorism. Since my comments, they have changed their policy and now have a new division focused on terror threats."

    "The Obama-Clinton war on coal has cost Michigan over 50,000 jobs."

    Says he saw videotape "of the people taking the money off the plane" to pay ransom to Iran for hostages.

    "Youth unemployment is through the roof."

    "An analysis showed that Bernie Sanders would have won the Democratic nomination if it were not for the Super Delegates."

    Says Hillary Clinton "wants to essentially abolish the Second Amendment."

    "Hillary Clinton invented ISIS with her stupid policies. She is responsible for ISIS."

    Says as GOP was picking a convention city, "I recommended Ohio."

    "Just look at what the FBI director said about her (Hillary Clinton) — her misconduct is a disgrace and embarrassment to our country."

    "As Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton laundered money to Bill Clinton through Laureate Education, while Bill Clinton was an honorary chairman of the group."


    All in the year from 7/1/16 - 7/1/17 all:

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    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/?page=1
     
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    Trump lies 7/1/17 to 7/1/18

    Trump "pants on fire statements 7/1/17 to 7/1/18

    Says Wisconsin "hadn’t been won by a Republican since Dwight D. Eisenhower, in 1952. And I won Wisconsin. … Ronald Reagan, remember, Wisconsin was the state that Ronald Reagan did not win."

    Says that people "went out in their boats to watch" Hurricane Harvey.

    "The Failing @nytimes quotes ‘a senior White House official,’ who doesn’t exist, as saying ‘even if the meeting were reinstated, holding it on June 12 would be impossible, given the lack of time and the amount of planning needed.’ WRONG AGAIN! Use real people, not phony sources."

    Says the 2018 defense authorization bill includes raises for the military "for the first time in 10 years."

    "James Comey Memos just out and show clearly that there was NO COLLUSION and NO OBSTRUCTION"

    "In many places, like California, the same person votes many times. You probably heard about that. They always like to say 'oh that's a conspiracy theory.' Not a conspiracy theory, folks. Millions and millions of people."

    "The state of California is begging us to build walls in certain areas. They don’t tell you that."

    "I never said Russia did not meddle in the election."

    At the State of the Union address, Democrats, "even on positive news … were like death and un-American. Un-American. Somebody said, ‘treasonous.’ I mean, yeah, I guess, why not? Can we call that treason? Why not?"

    "The ice caps were going to melt, they were going to be gone by now, but now they’re setting records, so okay, they’re at a record level."

    Says of the diversity visa lottery program, "they give us their worst people, they put them in a bin," and "the worst of the worst" are selected.

    "For years, they have not been able to get tax cuts -- many, many years, since Reagan."

    Says Joe Scarborough is party to an "unsolved mystery" from his time as a congressman in Florida.

    Chicago is "the city with the strongest gun laws in our nation."

    Ending the estate tax would "protect millions of small businesses and the American farmer."

    White nationalist protesters in Charlottesville "had a permit. The other group didn’t have a permit."

    Study what General Pershing of the United States did to terrorists when caught. There was no more Radical Islamic Terror for 35 years!"

    Amazon has a "no-tax monopoly."

    CNN’s ratings are "way down."


    All in the year from 7/1/17 - 7/1/18 all:

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    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/rulings/pants-fire/?page=1


    Trump false statements 7/1/17 to 7/1/18

    "Crime in Germany is way up."

    Philadelphia Eagles players stayed "in the Locker Room for the playing of our our National Anthem" or were "kneeling."

    "We got $6 billion for opioid and getting rid of that scourge that’s taking over our country. And the numbers are way down."

    Speaking of immigration cases, says, "We have thousands of judges."

    A "horrible law" requires that children be separated from their parents "once they cross the Border into the U.S."

    Says "Nancy Pelosi came out in favor of MS-13."

    Says James Clapper said "that the FBI was spying on (Trump's) campaign."

    A "catch and release" immigration policy "is a Democrat rule, Sherrod Brown, this is a Democrat rule."

    "In seven years that (nuclear) deal will have expired, and Iran is free to go ahead and create nuclear weapons."

    Says North Korea has "agreed to denuclearization."

    "Only fools, or worse, are saying that our money losing Post Office makes money with Amazon. THEY LOSE A FORTUNE, and this will be changed."

    Says Conor Lamb "ran on a campaign that said very nice things about me."

    In Japan, "they take a bowling ball from 20 feet up in the air and they drop it on the hood of the car. And if the hood dents, then the car doesn't qualify...It's horrible, the way we're treated."

    "When I was campaigning, I was talking about 18 and 20 years (when) wages effectively went down. Now, for the first time in a long time, they're starting to go up for people."

    "Democrats are nowhere to be found on DACA."

    "You take Pulse nightclub. If you had one person in that room that could carry a gun and knew how to use it, it wouldn’t have happened, or certainly to the extent that it did."

    The immigration visa lottery "randomly hands out green cards without any regard for skill, merit, or the safety of American people."

    "We enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history."

    Says "22 to 24 people" came into the United States due to family connection with suspect in the October 2017 New York City terror attack.

    "I authorized Zero access to White House (actually turned him down many times) for author of phony book! I never spoke to him for book."

    There is "substantial evidence of voter fraud."

    The Senate seat won in a special election by a Democrat had been "held for more than thirty years by Republicans."

    Said Dianne Feinstein said "there is no collusion" between the Trump campaign and Russia.

    "We have signed more legislation than anybody. We broke the record of Harry Truman."

    "We essentially repealed Obamacare because we got rid of the individual mandate ... and that was a primary source of funding of Obamacare."

    Missouri is one of "13 states this year have seen unemployment drop to the lowest levels in the history of their state."

    "Black homeownership just hit the highest level it has ever been in the history of our country."

    "Hillary Clinton lied many times to the FBI."

    Says the tax bill "is going to cost me a fortune, this thing -- believe me. Believe me, this is not good for me."

    Says the GOP plan he supports is "the biggest tax cut in U.S. history."

    Insurance companies "have made a fortune with Obamacare."

    "We're the highest developed nation taxed in the world."

    The Obama administration "borrowed more than $10 trillion, right? And yet, we picked up $5.2 trillion just in the stock market. ... Maybe in a sense we’re reducing debt."

    "Bob Corker gave us the Iran Deal."

    Says "No, I don't benefit, I don't benefit" from his tax proposal.

    We have one senator who’s a ‘yes’ vote ... but he’s in the hospital. And he’s a ‘yes’ vote. So we can’t do it by Friday. So we have the votes" to pass a health care bill.

    "We stopped traffic coming through -- 78 percent."

    "We have become an energy exporter for the first time ever just recently."

    "There aren't too many people outside protesting" his speech at the Phoenix Convention Center.

    Wages "haven’t gone up for a long time."

    "My first order as president was to renovate and modernize our nuclear arsenal. It is now far stronger and more powerful than ever before."

    Untaxed corporate earnings used to be "$2.5 trillion … I guess it’s $5 trillion now. Whatever it is, it’s a lot more. So we have anywhere from 4 (trillion) to 5 or even more trillions of dollars sitting offshore."

    The border is down 78 percent. Under past administrations, the border didn’t go down -- it went up."

    "We've achieved a historic increase in defense spending to get our troops the support they so richly deserve."

    During the Nixon Watergate investigation, "out of courtesy, the FBI started reporting to the Department of Justice. But there was nothing official."

    "We’ve signed more bills -- and I’m talking about through the legislature -- than any president ever."

    Says his job approval poll numbers are "not bad" relative to other presidents at this point in his presidency.

    Says John Podesta "refused to give the DNC server to the FBI and the CIA. Disgraceful!"[/i]

    All in the year from 7/1/17 - 7/1/18 all:

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    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/?page=1
     
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  3. Rhym3pays

    Rhym3pays Well-Known Member

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    Not unless a Trump supporter who is so quick to claim Trump didn't lie on all of these other threads, will be brave enough and make that case on this thread...

    They are surprisingly silent all of a sudden
     
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    Here's a very easy one... It's a video of Trump talking, so take your dramamine if needed... and it's topical since it's about Manafort

    https://www.msnbc.com/brian-william...campaign-for-49-days-it-was-144-1257153603922
     
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    Lol.... oh you guys....
     
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    Well, you sure got us there... I guess Trump has never lied... oh well, good try OP...
     
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    Have at it. They didn't take polls back in Lincoln's time.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...hows-hes-more-popular-than-lincoln/ar-AAzZSWU
     
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    "we're gonna build a wall and Mexico will pay for it"

    "I never met Putin"

    "millions of illegals voted for Hillary"

    "I didnt know about the payment to Stormy Daniels"
     
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    You don't know how to use the Internet?
     
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    'Politicians lie, it's what they do... when your job is to try to please all the people all the time, lies will be told'

    -- The Left, explaining Obama's numerous whoppers.

    I didn't have sexual relations with that woman, Monica Lewnsky....

    blowjobs aren't sexual relations, you nitwits.
     
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    Just this morning we were confronted with the fact that Trump had Hope Hicks claim that Trump was unaware of anything having do do with Susan McDoughal, at the very same time we now have Trump and Cohen on tape talking about paying her off.

    There's Trump Steaks.

    There's Trump's fake veterans fundraiser (from which he pocketed the money until the Washington Post caught him at it).

    We know that he directly participated in concocting a cover story for his son's imfamous meeting with Natalya Valnitskya.

    Not only is that a lie, but it is a lie of commission, Not a "view" or "belief".

    Just a couple off the top of my head.

    Of course his back and forth twitter rants are all lies.

    Trump is a sociopath. It's a personality disorder in which the patient is not only comfortable lying, but actually believes that there is power in lying. They derive satisfaction from upending the expectations and norms of everyone around them. They think that makes them strong.

    This is the pattern with Trump/

    He is running his entire presidency for no other purpose than to keep himself at the center of attention. Evidence makes it clear that he will say anything do achieve that one shallow goal. He has no others.
     
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    Let me post some of this guy's responses from the other thread -- they are some beauties.

    Like when someone mentioned the would instead of wouldn't lie -- his reply was that Trump didn't lie, he was forced by his party to walk that back, so it wasn't his intention to deceive, it was his party's intention and they forced Trump to do it -- his ACTUAL quote is:

    "Trump is a strong POTUS – the best – and all strong Presidents do what their Party demand, when their job hangs in the balance."
     
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    I see stuff like this from my right wing FB friends all the time.

    It's pathetic really. A carefully constructed rant that is designed to insulate the Trumpster audience from the obvious. Full of circular logic, rationalization, and including an excuse to ignore the obvious evidence.

    This is where Trumpsterism is now.

    They can't support their claims with facts anymore. Trump squandered that.

    Now they have to make up excuses for believing the ridiculous and taking the nonsense at face value.

    The most dangerous assumption in this rant is this"if he believed it when he said it, it is not a lie"

    This is nothing short of liar absolution.

    Trump is a sociopath. Lying is his natural default.

    He does not understand or care about the concepts of fact or truth.

    To him, whatever serves him at that specific moment is his reality. It could be completely different in the next breath, or in the last one.
     
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    Bold italics don't change the fact that Trump is NOT paying any attention to the GOP At all, and certainly has no intention of doing what his party demands. He could care less.
     
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    Here is another beauty...when asked about building a wall and Mexico paying for it 100%-- this delusional Trump supporter's reply was:

    "Where is the lie? If I say, "One day I will own Mars," it isn't a lie. It's a statement nobody can prove or disprove. He didn't put a time limit on when the wall would be built, and he didn't say when Mexico would pay"

    These people are purposely delusional.
     
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    How about this lie told by Trump supporters themselves:

    Trump isn't a politician
     
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    Iriemon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nobody, including Obama or Clinton, is even in the same universe as donald when it comes to lying. He's pathological.

    If you want to match lie for lie, I'll quote you 5 of donald's for every one you quote of Obama's. Or Bill Clinton's. Or Hillary Clinton's.
     
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    "Before taking office people were assuming that we were going to War with North Korea. President Obama said that North Korea was our biggest and most dangerous problem. No longer - sleep well tonight!" Trump tweet June 13, 2018

    Kim Jong Un has taken no major steps toward that aim since their summit in Singapore last month, and has increased his production of nuclear weapons fuel.
    link
     
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    Shouldn't this thread be in the comedy section.
     
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    Didn't take long for Trump supporter's to run away from the subject.
     
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    Almost forgot about when he claimed he made headlines opposing the invasion of Iraq. Or the time he lied about supporting an invasion of Libya. Or the time he said American wages were too high and then lied about it afterward. Or the team he lied about supporting government-funded healthcare.
     
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    Trump voters lie about trump not lying.

    Obama voters lied about obama not lying.

    Our politicians have lied to us for years.

    Our intel are professional liars and lie to the People, and get paid for it.

    Liars, liars everywhere and yet they just only worry about trump's lies? Well, absurdity, with the ludicrous side of sh*t hitting the fan is the norm, along with a nation of liars.

    American liars is all that I see, and no moral highground unless you go back to Jimmy Carter. We have had a long dry spell of honesty in american politics, including the voters. Yes reality is a bi*ch. Very inconvenient thing, this reality. Red, white, blue, hypocrisy. If not so sick, it would be hilarious.
     
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    lefties getn trolled by facebook lefties...frign priceless!
     
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    They are delusional, but TECHNICALLY "we will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it" isn't a lie... It's a promise of a future event that has no chance of becoming true... I believe a lie has to be about a past or current event, not future bullshit dreams...

    It's certainly something, but it's not a lie...
     
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    Good one... and since you want to go to NoKo, here is the whopper I will remember, from the same day.... "There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea".... I'd like to get that one on a T-shirt and wear that at the midterm elections and 2020....

    This is fun... we need to store this thread in a cloud vault somewhere for future generations to see at a glance what a liar we voted into the WH....

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