Guns & Stand Your Ground victory. Got a problem with that? video included.

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Moi621, Jul 20, 2018.

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Do YOU support this Stand Your Ground example of lethal gun defense?

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  1. jay runner

    jay runner Banned

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    I reckon this dumb somebeach has learned about Stand Your Ground down in Jawja. Dumb (and even dumber) almost always has to pay:

    SOUTH FULTON, Ga. - Police said a woman shot her ex-boyfriend in self-defense after he kicked in her front door in South Fulton County. The victim told Channel 2 Action News she felt like her life was in danger. The woman, who did not want to be identified, said she had just broken up with the man Wednesday and was home with her five children when he came crashing through her front door. Bullet holes at the home on Montilly Place tell the story of the mother in fear.

    "We received a call this morning, I believe on Montilly Place, of a woman screaming, saying someone's trying to break into her house," South Fulton Police Lt. Charles Cook said. South Fulton police officials said the man who eventually kicked in the front door was indeed the woman's ex-boyfriend.

    Once he was inside, police said, the woman warned the man several times that she would shoot him if he didn't stop coming toward her. According to detectives, she fired three shots, hitting him once in the chest. The man was taken to Grady Memorial Hospital.

    "She was in fear of her life and was trying to defend herself and her family and use necessary force she felt was appropriate at the time," Cook said.

    Police said they have been to the home before. The victim told Channel 2 Action News the last time she broke up with the man, he lost his temper.

    Back in March, the woman said she fired multiple shots outside her house.

    "THERE WILL BE CHARGES FILED ON HIM, FELONY CHARGES, and at this time, there's no pending charges on the victim," Cook said.

    What a dumb arse somebeach. Unfortunately he's still alive.
     
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  2. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Most (all?) states have a Castle Doctrine law, where you have no duty to retreat while inside your home.
    SYG applies this to wherever you might legally be. Far too many people do not understand that the use of deadly force is not in any way granted by SYG laws, as SYG only affects your duty to retreat.
     
  3. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

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    In an altercation, what's worse, being forcefully shoved off your feet and hitting the ground without serious injury or being shot in the chest to death?
     
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  4. jay runner

    jay runner Banned

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    When you engage in war you can never be sure what the outcome will be.
     
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  5. BobbyRam

    BobbyRam Banned

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    It seems to be upsetting you that I'm taking you at your word. Why is that? Didn't you say getting shoved to the ground would cause you to fear for your life?
     
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    Not sure how your question is relevant.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    You either have no intent or no capacity to give me a reason to take you seriously - and so, I thank you for making it clear I need waste no more time on you.
    Buh-bye.
     
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  8. BobbyRam

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    I ask you a simple question about your position and you get angry and leave in a huff? Way to prove you aren't as fragile as I claim you to be. Don't know why I would even think that of you.
     
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    It's his M.O. He doesn't want to engage with people who call him on his bullsh!t. He can't take the heat.
     
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    She is not in the car!!! She comes out of the car as her boyfriend comes out of the store. Which is an obvious thing to do because her other two kids are in the car while the thug is threatening her. Try watching the video again. Watch it here....

    https://www.wfla.com/news/pinellas-...eads-to-deadly-clearwater-shooting/1312474223

    Do you even know what were discussing here? Do you understand what "Stand your Ground" law is?

    You seem completely lost on what it is we're talking about.

    You are trying to prove that the black guy committed assault? Sure! But that makes absolutely no difference in this matter. For the simple reason that the black guy did not kill the white guy. It was the other way around.

    Let me explain it to you: What you describe above, in any other state, would have saved the thug from 1st or 2nd degree murder.... and other types of murder. But not from involuntary manslaughter. Or whatever you call in your State when you recklessly put yourself In a situation in which you end up killing somebody. Florida the thug walks! And, if charged, a typical jury will include people like you, and all the apologists of this thug. So they will see that the dead guy is black, and the chances of the thug going free are immensely greater than if the dead guy were white and the shooter black.

    The boyfriend could have managed the situation in a more reasonable manner and taken a rational approach to the matter. Welcome to real world! Here, that doesn't happen as often as you think. Of course the boyfriend would have been guilty of assault! Sure! The black guy pushed the thug while he was screaming and wagging a finger at the girlfriend who had kids in the car. Remember, this is a thug who is known to regular clients. The boyfriend being one of them. But they both put themselves recklessly in this situation. Either one killed the other, they would have committed involuntary manslaughter But it was the white guy who did the shooting. And, in Florida, his chances of walking free are much higher than if it had been the other way around.
     
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    Markeis McGlockton should not have assaulted Drejka.

    Was it Drejka's business that McGlockton was parked in a handicap spot?

    No, but if McGlockton or his girlfriend felt harassed, they could have called police.
     
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  12. wyly

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    the assailant was backing away, it was murder...no different than when Walter Scott was shot by a white North Charleston police officer who is now serving 20yrs in prison.
     
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    "could have". Save it for the sunshine and unicorn convention.

    What happened, was a man was assaulted and justified in defending himself.
     
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    It was not murder, it was justified homicide.
     
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    This is no way means the shooter was not in reasonable fear for his life.
    Remember - you have a very different perspective of the event than he does, and yours doesn't matter.
     
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    Only a chicken **** would be in fear of someone who is walking AWAY from them. But I digress....
     
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    based on his past history the shooter was looking for someone to shoot, he definitely knew what he was doing deliberately provoking a confrontation that's not self defense that's premeditated murder...
     
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    Your opinion on his motivations is irrelevant to the incident at hand.
    What matters is what you saw, and what you didn't hear between the father and the shooter.
     
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    I have a problem with the woman parking in the handicapped spot.
    I have a problem with the guy confronting her on the spot. I have an app I use on my phone which I take a picture and it goes to a central database and if enough reoports are submitted they contact local police to try and get some enforcement. They tell you DO NOT confront the person yourself. I also carry little slips of paper with our state law and punishments printed on them that I will put under their windshield wipers which says "You have been reported"
    I have a problem with the guy walking out the store and violently assaulting the man when the man was not physically threatening his wife/girlfriend. Had he not been killed he should have been arrrested.
    I have a problem with the shot being fired as the victim is turning and not coming at the man on the ground. Had he moved towards the man or threatened him further in any manner then perhaps not.
     
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    ....or serious bodily harm.
     
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    Maybe he was a chicken sh*t. Should that matter?

    McGlockton should have just gotten in his car and left. He was illegally parked anyway.

    Black people always complain about racism, yet they continue to do STUPID things like what McGlockton did, making things EASY for the racists (not saying Drejka acted out of racism).

    Black people NEED to learn to STOP acting out of raw EMOTION and use their INTELLIGENCE.

    By the way, I'm black.
     
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    Which makes him guilty of Assault, and the thug guilty of Involuntary Manslaughter in most states. In Florida, if you killed a black guy, you are much more likely to go free.

    As a matter of fact, he had already been set free. If this hadn't made the news (and many cases don't) that would have been the end of it..
     
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    Sorry, but the use of deadly force against a man who shoved you after you were commiting assault on his wife is not justified.

    No one was defending himself here.

    But this is the realization of ever gun nut's fantasy.

    This is what the wild west looks like.
     
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    Girlfriend. No one assaulted her.
    In fact, the only assault came from the father, who was then shot in self-defense.

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
     
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    The shooter was stupid for confronting the woman, but he had to defend himself from being blindsided by the dead guy. The shooter did nothing to deserve being knocked on his butt and the guy was approaching him to possibly do more damage until he saw the gun. The shooter immediately shot the guy. During the draw, the guy took a couple of steps back, but how could the shooter have known all of that as he was probably dazed and confused from the attack?

    Had he used his gun to intimidate the woman, he'd definitely be a murderer. I haven't heard that he did so and apparently, neither did the police when they questioned the woman. It troubles me that this guy has a history of starting arguments while carrying a gun. I've walked away from confrontations where people think I'm a coward. At least we both walked away. I hope this shooter learned his lesson as well as the woman parking in handicap spots.
     
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