The study of Diversity .. The Robert Putnam Study

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  1. LangleyMan

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    Why should your identity be tied to race?
     
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    I don't think we need to go to the extreme of refusing everyone.
    We have a lot of illegal (uncontrolled) immigration because business and some individuals want cheap labor. Note that Trump is doing almost nothing to prosecute employers, like previous Administrations.
     
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    Unless we plan to pressure women into having more children, it will mean we have to make it easier for young families to buy homes, have affordable childcare, or one spouse to make enough money to support a family. This will cost money. Are we prepared to tax those with higher incomes to make the strategy possible? Are we prepared to allow workers to unionize to bring up their wages?
    Republicans in particular don't like unions or higher taxes. Something will have to give.
     
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    Making good on the Trump administration’s pledge to crack down on illegal immigration, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has dramatically increased its number of worksite enforcement investigations. From Oct. 1, 2017, to May 4, 2018, ICE opened more than 3,500 worksite investigations, initiated nearly 2,300 I-9 audits, and made 594 criminal and 610 administrative worksite-related arrests. That’s roughly double the number of investigations it launched during the last fully completed fiscal year.

    According to Acting Director Thomas Homan, ICE will prosecute employers that knowingly hire undocumented workers. The workers themselves will be detained and deported. The stated goal is to create a “culture of compliance,” but critics of the increased enforcement claim it only serves to create a “culture of fear.”

    That’s not surprising, considering the spotlight that’s been shown on a couple of recent displays of ICE muscle. After an early April raid at Southeastern Provision, a Grainger County, Tenn. meatpacking plant, resulted in the arrest of 97 undocumented workers, words like “panicked” and “terrified” appeared in the local press. Earlier this year, more than 150 undocumented workers were arrested during a series of raids in California, and in May, 32 undocumented workers were arrested at Midwest Precast Concrete in Mt. Pleasant, Iowa.

    While these specific enforcement actions came about as the result of criminal investigations, ICE Spokeswoman Danielle Bennett says the media and employers often conflate the terms audit and raid, thus painting a misleadingly ominous picture of what is a routine process.

    “People like to use the term ‘raid’ [when they are talking about an audit], but this is the least raid type of enforcement action you are going to see,” says Bennett. “Everybody talks about the potential consequences, but we may look at the tax records and the hiring records and say, ‘You’re doing a great job. Keep it up!’ ”

    The process itself begins with a formal Notice of Inspection, which gives an employer three business days to produce its employment records, after which the audit commences. However, Paul Virtue, a partner at Mayer Brown and former general counsel of the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service, advises clients not to wait until they receive a Notice of Inspection to “make sure their house is in order.”...
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    594 criminal and 610 administrative worksite-related arrests = 1204 arrest.

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    Oh, c'mon--Trump is making an appeal to whites by criticizing Mexicans and blacks. He has almost no one but white people in his Administration.
     
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    Gosh, at that rate we'll clean up the problem in a couple of centuries.
     
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    Oh, please--how about real evidence, not the musings of some brainless type? You'll rot your brain with this stuff.
     
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    E-Verify
     
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    No. Crockett is correct; ours is a secular nation and using taxpayer dollars for charity isn't a Constitutional power. We had a similar problem after 9/11 when the US government used taxpayer dollars to pay the widows and orphans of people lost on that day.

    It should, otherwise you're just a lip-service member of the Church.

    Yes, but Christ didn't demand how that money was to be spent.
     
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    Agreed....and Voter ID cards. Requiring all employers and renters, etc to verify the legal residence status of employees and renters/buyers should be the law. Those who fail to do so should face severe criminal penalties.

    Turning off the attraction of the United States to illegals will help solve the illegal immigration problem. The most effective thing to slow illegal immigration in the last 30 years was the Great Recession. Why? No jobs. We can do the same thing by requiring an ID and/or E-verify check.
     
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    Of course cultural diversity divides people. The common anthropological/sociological theory is that ethnicity is created in the meeting with an "Other". Which, of course, means that the more heterogenous/multicultural a society is, the more segregated and conflict prone will it be.
     
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    Dude, many of the Founders were Christian, but they founded a secular nation. If we were a Christian nation, then why aren't we acting like it? Why we building weapons instead of food and water delivery systems? Why are we invading countries instead of sending missionaries? The fact remains we can't be both a Christian nation and also Federal Constitutional Republic.

    Minors can't consent. If it were up to me, I'd bump the age for consent, voting, etc to 25 or, more scientifically, make them pass a series of tests proving their mental and physical maturity to qualify as an adult. The test could be offered beginning at 16 and allowed only once a year.
     
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    Diversity? What did Christ say were the two greatest commandments? How do those two commandments jive with your political and nationalist views? A Christian is a Christian 24/7, not just when it's convenient or for a few hours every Sunday.
     
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    We COULD do many things to stop illegal aliens and refugees from entering the US by the left does not want to do anything except grant them amnesty

    And that has been true since the last amnesty-to-end-all-amnestys was signed in 1986 for 3 million illegals

    Now we may have 30 million or more
     
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    It can be, but it's not required to be so. On March 17th, all Americans act Irish. On May 5th, all Americans act Mexican (Cinco de Mayo is a bigger holiday in the US than Mexico). It's one thing to choose to have dinner in China Town or German Town, it's another thing that Chinese and German immigrants don't assimilate and wall themselves off from their neighbors. Assimilation doesn't mean completely losing oneself into a new culture, but it does mean mixing with it enough to become part of that new culture. Want to come to America to live? You have to become an American. If you don't, go someplace else.
     
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    It does not matter if you take part in different cultural festivities, your ethnicity will remain the same and - in fact - it will become even more obvious in such settings - If you are a fair skinned, blonde American and participate in 5 de Mayo, the Mexicans will immediately see that you are not "one of them" and the same applies if you go for dinner in Chinatown. The very fact that there is Chinatown is enough to confirm that multiculturalism results in segregation.
     
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    I know people who are Mexican who have blond hair and blue eyes. FWIW, I travel to Mexico quite a bit and also know many people of Hispanic descent in Texas. I've never had a problem. Maybe the attitudes of other people have caused them problems.

    Several decades ago I was stationed at MCAS Tustin. It was in the 80s when large numbers of Vietnamese boat people were being brought to the US. Many of them settled congregated in Garden Grove. So many, in fact, that some wag put up a billboard that said "When the last American leaves Garden Grove, please take the flag". Yes, a lot of Vietnamese businesses sprang up and many streets in the area were written in both English and Vietnamese. I dated a Vietnamese woman for a few month and she introduced me to some really great food offered in the area. I never had a problem in "Little Saigon" either when with her or, later, when I went myself with another friend. I think a lot of it is attitude. Being friendly and appreciating the culture is fine. Sneering, considering them to be subhuman and sporting a swastika on a jacket isn't optimal behavior.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Saigon,_Orange_County
     
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    It's part of who I am, why should I deny it? To appease members of a neo-Marxist political movement?

    Maybe I should deny being a woman as well? Have you ever told a feminist to stop tying her gender to her identity? How about a black person? A Muslim their faith? If not, why single out white folks for this standard?
     
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    Odds are, you're right-handed and at least of average intelligence. Do you brag about that too? If not, why not? It's part of your "identity".

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    You fail to tell us which hospitals these are that refuse admittance to their emergency rooms, Aleks. You should list them! The ACLU will attack them like Nazi Stuka dive-bombers attacking Poland in 1939.

    I like your 'drama' about the buzzards and everything, but when I drive by hospitals I don't see 'piles of corpses' anywhere.... What I do see is that enormous numbers of people who don't or won't pay for their own health and medical needs simply get signed up for Medicaid. They get everything for free! What a deal! The working, taxpaying schmucks get to pay for everything -- Socialism in action! :banana:

    The lesson --

    You can work your ass off until you're dead paying for yourself AND the 'poor'

    or

    You sit on your dead ass and get the worker to pay for you! Ooh! What do YOU think the average liberal Democrat is going to do...?

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    Conservatives of course. Watching the intelligence level of the country gradually decline represents an existential threat.
     
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    So, your argument that Trump's campaign was a White Identity campaign comes down to, "Oh C'mon?"

    As well reasoned an argument as I can expect.
     
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    We can get it done with a e-verify system that actually works. Let'd do it!
     
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    But the nation has gotten more and more Liberal as the last half century has gone on. Many, including Leftists, claim they "won" the culture war.

    Is there a possibility the two are correlated?
     
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    It is interesting that "diversity" is only considered what you look like or where you come from.

    Diversity of ideas is still something that most people absolutely hate and will die to defend. I think diversity of ideas is getting more and more separate from each other as neither side wants to allow the other to even exist.
     

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