The Necessity of Abortion

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  1. vman12

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    I'm afraid not.

    There are 12.1 per 100k abortions and 48.4 per 100k live births per year.

    Those are tiny rates?
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's right beside the "like" button to the bottom right of every post.

    Post scavenger hunt is a favorite stall tactic for leftists here, btw.
     
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    0.000121% and 0.000484%?

    Yeah, they are.
     
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    Great.

    So we'll never hear you complain about murder, police brutality, people getting shot while "unarmed", or anything that has an incidence rate below 12.1 per 100k.
     
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    To me it's irrelevant.

    Jesus was an immaculate conception. Everybody knows how the rest of pregnancies occur.
     
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    No, what you’ll never hear me claim is that people are consenting to police brutality because those tiny chances exist.
     
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    Sure they are. They're acting in ways that bring about police interaction.

    Oh and you got your percentages wrong.

    There are about 75 million women in the US of child bearing age.

    Over 6 million of them get pregnant each year.

    There goes your narrative.

    Unless you'd like to go back to your math that included men, old women, and pre-pubescent children of course.

    Oh I'm sorry. I was wrong.

    It's about 61 million women.

    https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/contraceptive-use-united-states

    That means 10% of women get pregnant every year. How rare is it again?
     
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    There is no number next to my like button.

    I never hide from a question.
     
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    Those 75 million women engage in how many billions of acts of intercourse per year?

    So every time you are interacting with a cop you are consenting to police brutality?
     
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    Actually there are 61 million women in the US of child bearing age. About 10% of those can't get pregnant, so we're down to about 55 million.

    https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/contraceptive-use-united-states

    Tell me more about how 10%+ of women getting pregnant each year is a rare event, and that's with birth control.
     
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    That depends.

    Are you using lawful behavior as a prophylactic?
     
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    Again, out of how many billions of acts of intercourse per year in America?

    American women get preganant because in total they have a lot of sex.

    Even aggregated across the entire population and averaged there are more than 18,000,000,000 acts of intercourse per year. Americans alone have 3 times as much sex as there are people on the planet.
     
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    Didn’t matter for Philando Castile or Botham Jean.
     
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    This is the last post on page 83

    1. Every child's life has the same value. An innocent child unknowingly pointing a gun is just as valuable, but you are legally allowed to defend yourself from the innocent child by blowing his head off.

    2. I said nothing about punishing women for sex. If you're going to argue with yourself, please don't address it to me.

    3. Sex causes Pregnancy, and everything associated with it. Women know that before they have sex. Do you think McDonald's forced people to get fat?

    4. I never suggested women should be forced to use both control. Again you argue with yourself.

    5. I don't know how you attach losing 2A to pregnancy, but I didn't say it.
     
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    So for instance a woman facing the numerous health risks that come with pregnancy (including lethal ones) should be able to defend herself against the innocent child putting her at those risks, yes?
     
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    Yes if there are significant serious issues that give a reasonably high level of danger to the mother. Not just to her life, but serious harm.

    I can't imagine being Pro-Life and against self defense.

    Every car coming down the road has a chance of swerving and killing me but I have to have a reasonably high expectations of danger before I should be allowed to blast the drivers brains out with a .45, yes?
     
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    So there’s relatively high chances of medical problems with every pregnancy, so you should have no problem with any woman terminating her pregnancy to avoid them.
     
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    I still don't see post #s...
     
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    There were rumors that Clinton used a cigar wrapper as a prophylactic, but I can't verify it.
     
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    No, that's just an excuse to execute a child for convenience.
     
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    But you are cool with executing a child if the method it was conceived is inconvenient for you, so why do you have a problem with another type of inconvenience?
     
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    I wonder if it's my phone. I think I remember seeing post #s on my pc.
     
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    But I never said that.

    That's at least the 4th time you've chosen to mischaracterize my statements rather than quote them.

    Try again by quoting what a really said and I'll respond in kind.
     
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    You said you are okay with abortion in the case of rape, yes?

    So in that case the inconvenience of having to carry a child the woman doesn’t want justified it’s execution. Why not in others?

    It makes no logical sense for an anti-abortion person to make exceptions for rape or incest or the like and to argue that other abortions are “executions” or “murder”.
     
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    I didn't say it was because of inconvenience. I said it was involuntary servitude.

    And I didn't say incest. Just rape.
     
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