'White Awake' group draws backlash at University of Maryland

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  1. Brewskier

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    Liberal whites believe that there is a certain level of apologia and a self loathing where minorities will accept them as equals and there will be peace and harmony. It doesn’t work that way.
     
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    Well that would be murder under the law at the time. A slave owner could be charged with murder for murdering a slave. You are trying to judge the actions of those during those times through the prism of today, that's folly. The fact remains the VAST majority of people did not own slaves. And the vast majority of those who fought in the war were fighting to protect the lands, their homes, their businesses and their families from an invasion by the Union. Unfortunately the Union did manage to destroy most of that with their warmongering.
     
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    Crime statistics tell us a white person is something like 80% more likely to be raped and murdered by another white person so either you don't know how ri read statistics or you just don't know how to read.
     
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    How far back do stop judging people's actions out of curiosity? Do you pass no judgement on nazi's? Communists? Segregationists?
     
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    PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE

    ANSWER THIS!


    Why Do "they" immigrate to Western, White Nations? The weather?


    Definition, What White:


    Whites, West of Orthodox Christianity culturally hybridized with Ashkenazim.

    The Orthodox did not culturally hybridize so they missed out on the Enlightenment
    as well as the understanding of the gears of capitalism vs feudalism.

    Spain and its' spin off obviously, didn't make it.
    Not White enough after 800 years of Moorish dominion? :rolleyes:
    And what of :flagcanada:?


    :)
    White, No Apologies!
    And Ashkenzi too, 95+%

    Simple Question: What NOT White Nation is receiving lots and lots of immigrants? Or refugees? ;)
    AND Why?

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    It is about social institutions and a manner of thinking that "their kind"
    were never able to develop nor adopt in their place even if they knew of them.

    Sort of like the French Revolution leaders knew about the American model but,
    decided they needed a more French, revolution :rolleyes:

    Consider the successes of Native Americans today who in 300 years came from a neolithic existence to metals, horses, industry, etc. Successes. They must have a few not anglicized featured poster children.
    How's it go down under and theirs? @Sallyally

    Consider the possibilities of adopting individuals, if not communities, from cultures that did not experience that period of history and cultural development termed, The Enlightenment. Witness "they" just don't get it.
    Can we really, in our most liberal spirit, expect "them" to adopt "our" way?
    Melting Pot, NOT Salad Bowl!

    Why Do "they" immigrate to Western, White Nations?
    And let's be proud of why they do and not apologetic!



    Moi :oldman:






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  6. Sallyally

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    Just a little pick at something.
    Many cultures had admirable systems which worked very well. They had laws which seem harsh or primitive to us, but worked well in those circumstances.
    Eg: Australia aborigines laws about marriage maintained genetic diversity.
    Why does modern western thinking have to be the yardstick by which everything is judged?
     
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    Only if they wish to immigrate here.
    I am more non interventionist than most about them in their land
     
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    The Confederacy was a farce, those folks took up arms against THEIR country which was the United States of America.


    They took up arms against their country, plain and simple.

    They were never out of the Union and their actions were treason.

    Spare me, why didn't they pack up and leave after the war?
     
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    Post whatever you please to fit the internationally acclaimed narrative of Der Juden being held as slaves for 400 years, until Musa (Moses) came to liberate them, but there is absolutely NO FACTUAL EVIDENCE to bolster such claims. If there was any validity to such claims, it would have been found by actual archaeologists long ago, but alas, NONE has been found. What is in Torah Tenach is reference to a completely different people, at a distant time, which is why it is called PROPHECY.
     
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    WRONG, WRONG, WRONG! You could not bee more WRONG!
     
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    With such an emphatic answer, you must be correct. Or so they told you.
     
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    Where in any of what I posted did I claim that? I ever once claimed some mass enslaving of the Jews. Why do you keep bringing them up? Do hate Jewish people or something, because no one but you was talking about them.

    There were plenty of verifiable facts in the links I provided. Can’t teach those who do not want to learn.

    You know what, I think you might just be one of those people that one cannot talk with, so I won’t be doing that.

    Enjoy your bubble.
     
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    So, exactly what was the Revolution?

    People wanting change. And since the didn't have social media at that time, they couldn't do a flash protest.

    The North wanted to change something in the (predominately) South. It took a bit of a while, but the change happened. It doesn't mean what existed previously didn't exist, or that the people who fought on the losing side were traitors, or that their way of life was wrong for the period it existed in. Through today's eyes, we see the moral wrong, but morals expand, change, modify, they are not stasis.

    *Note - I don't believe that slavery was the driving force behind the Civil War, but use it as a basis of respectful discussion with those who do.
     
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    The British lost and so did the traitors of the Confederacy.
     
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    Laws change over time. Everyone knew slavery was wrong. You can't shackle, whip, work, rape and kill someone let alone an entire people and not know it's wrong unless maybe you were literally raised by wolves. The only people pretending this are apologists for the Confederacy. The extent of misery and suffering that existed was inescapable. They separated husbands from wifes, parents from children. They auctioned them off like cattle and they knew it was wrong and evil but it was also profitable. You conservatives can deny this fact all you want, hell you deny global warming, social injustice, legal investigations by the FBI and DOJ, evolution, the list goes on and on so why should this be any different. I just wished you knew how you sounded to normal people when you say things like slaver masters didn't know slavery was morally wrong. Maybe if you knew the embarrassment might actual compel you to seek out facts instead of the propaganda you've been fed your entire life.
     
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    So do you feel that Britain views the US as 'Traitors'?
     
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    Wow, you really do have a big......paintbrush. First, before you trip over your own feet, perhaps you need to do a little checking on the person you just dumped that load of crap on. How about posting exactly where I denied Climate Change, evolution, and the list goes on and on. You can't because it doesn't exist. So, back at the subject at hand and skip the personal attacks, shall we?

    You claim that 'Everyone', which is false. Not every slave owner treated their slaves as such. There were some that did, no doubt about that. But one does not normally abuse the source of their income, human, animal or machinery. Again, unless you are very, very old, you did not live at the time, and neither did I, that slaves were kept. You cannot legitimately say 'they knew it was wrong'. If they 'knew it was wrong' it would have been permitted at all, would it? And just to clarify, slavery was not 'only' in the southern states.
     
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    I didn't say you personally denied those things, just that conservatives in general do so it isn't all surprising to find a conservative denying reality here.

    And here we begin to expose the lie because as you are telling me I can't possibly know how slave masters thought about slavery from so long ago you are also here telling me you know how slave masters treated their property. Unfortunately for you again your argument isn't supported by fact.

    So everything that is wrong is always prohibited? I guess that means abortion is just fine.

    But you know what I didnt live back then. Luckily for us the people who did wrote about slavery time to time.

    Benjamin Franklin called slavery "an atrocious debasement of human nature" and "a source of serious evils."

    John Jay said "the honour of the states, as well as justice and humanity, in my opinion, loudly call upon them to emancipate these unhappy people. To contend for our own liberty, and to deny that blessing to others, involves an inconsistency not to be excused."

    John Adams
    called slavery a "foul contagion in the human character" and "an evil of colossal magnitude."

    John Quincy Adams "The inconsistency of the institution of slavery with the principles of the Declaration of Independence was seen and lamented,"

    https://www.heritage.org/american-founders/report/how-understand-slavery-and-the-american-founding
     
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    I find it fun that you call me a conservative. I'm usually called a liberal when I tick someone off. ;)

    I am pro-Choice, for whatever that has to do with this discussion. It is not my place to tell someone else what to do with their body, nor their place to tell me what to do with mine.

    https://www.revolutionary-war.net/slavery-and-the-founding-fathers.html
    A number of our Founding Fathers held slaves, and continued to hold slaves, after making statements such as you posted. Others made no 'statement' at all. What does that say about them?
     
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    They view the United States as winners.
     
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    That they were slave owners and even they knew it was wrong. That doesn't help your point it hurts it.
     
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    Who are "they"?
     
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    Repeating the controlled information to enable the myth of "Chosen people" narrative and script is not proving any facts, just regurgitating the same of narrative that enables the Master Race, I mean Chosen People to continue to legitimize an outright lie that has enable untold massacre and slaughter "In the name of God".
     
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    That is nothing new , The Southerners have been telling the kids lies about how good the Confederates were for at least 153 years or more.
     
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    Dude, it was a different time. How far back are you willing to go? Are you willing to go back to gladiators in the arena who killed each other for the amusement of the crowd?

    How come you guys never, ever mention the people who captured and sold their compadres as slaves?
     

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