Corbyn is Being Destroyed, Like Blowing Up a Bridge to Stop an Advancing Army <<MOD WARNNG>>

https://antisemitism.uk/police-inve...orts-hate-crime-to-cressida-dick-live-on-lbc/
This is more recent.

 

Nobody listens to them in real life so online forums are a godsend to them. You will never get coherent reply from them just the same repetition of crap. What they hate is being ignored, try it, your ll find it works

 

So about that bloated old imperialist Churchill, the one who lost Britain an Empire and left half of Europe under the yoke of SOCIALISM!, no worse than that COMMUNISM!

Well we know he was a casual antisemite.

A racial supremacist.

A Colonialist.

And of course he rather admired Hitler, not to mention a manic depressive, who was a proper mummys boy!

I wonder why people admire the fat, bloated, snobby toff so much?

 

Yeah whatever Dude, your Corbyn loves Chavez.

 

Because he won.

 

The socialists who fought Franco and his fascists in the Spanish civil war were screwed over by their idols in Kremlin. You know, the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.

Far left and far right are identical in almost all aspects except use of language. Far left are using the language of human rights to deny certain groups they don't like their own human rights. Far right are more sincere, outspoken about their goals. Both movements seek total control over masses. The most notable difference between the two movements is in the scope of their struggle - while preserving nation, state, and own territory is paramount for the far right, spreading ideology and entrapping other nations is paramount for the far left. Both movements are ultranationalistic, xenophobic ("fifth columns" paranoia), control freaks, dictatorial, intolerant.

Here's your Corbyn in a nutshell.

However, the unholy alliance between the British left and the theocratic Iranian regime and its proxy army Hezbollah, as well as Sunni extremists like Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood, is having unexpected consequences. British Muslims are turning to their former perceived worst enemies in their struggle against extremism.

https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/...-semitism-in-full-page-newspaper-ad-1.6099535

Although I wouldn't expect hugs and kisses between Jews and Muslims worldwide anytime soon, it's quite clear that the danger religious fundamentalism poses to Muslims themselves is likely to bridge not only political and ideological gaps, but also push human beings closer to each other as they find common denominators with other, formerly seen as threatening aliens, human beings. From the same article quoted above:

Jeremy dances-with-terrorists Corbyn and his supporters have managed to alienate communities they pretend to defend. Nice.

 

New Labour = fascism.
Old Labour = communism.

At war with each other again.

Corbyn = neither.
Corbyn = radicalism.

He isn't deep enough to have any ideals. He's a shallow guy.
He is against stuff, not for.

All the easy positions, nothing more.
He can point out your flaws, point finger at every wart and hair.

But he's got no solutions to any of them. No clue at all.
Meanwhile under this stalwart lack of leadership, his party has disintegrated.

 

The whole area was taken and the French were also part of that war, that wasn't my country, what my grandparents fought for in 1948 is my country, don't be sorry....we won.

I'm not British so I can only guess, but as long as your citizens have the feeling of freedom they will stick to their country, if they don't they will seek out a new place, they have the right to oppose Corbyn and as you should understand it, but if you see it as a "loyalty" issue than you are the same problem the Right pose to Muslims.

 

Spinning history again a typical Zionist attempt to emphasise the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact which had nothing to do with the Spanish Civil war and ignore the simple fact I stated that it was the Socialists of Britain who stood against Hitler and Fascism. Do you think it was the Tory party standing with the Jews at the battle of Cable street, or was it the left wing socialists?

Please explain which of Corbyns policies are represented by your ill informed rant above, indeed the antisemitism row is about denying the right of free speech to criticise Israel, as usual for a zionist you wish to conflate right wing rhetoric with actual facts about the current labour party.

Excelent if this is Corbyn in a nutshell you will have no difficulty pointing out which policies in the Labour Manifesto actually seek "total control of the masses" and other such drivel.

Please show which of Labours policies under Corbyn represent an un-holly alliance with Iran, I am fascinated to hear!

Just as Jewish extremism is dangerous so is Muslim extremism, hold the front page! but what has that to do with Corbyn and the Labour Party.

As has already been pointed out by Baff Jews are if anything proportionally over represented in the Labour Party, name the elected representative body of British Jews that claims Corbyn is alienating them? No the issue is a few Zionists who claim to represent the British Jews but actually are not elected or have any right to claim to represent Jews than any other group.How about you showing Corbyn is antisemetic by any other argument than he does not support all of Israels racist policies! Getting a lecture on support from terrorism from a country founded by and worshipping terrorists is hilarious, but as we know do as I say, not as I do! Especially when that country's leader is a ****ing holocaust revisionist!

 

No you are damm right is wasn't your country, and this whole antisemitism in Labour is about him daring to support the people who's country it was!

They have every right to oppose Corbyn but no right to claim that antisemitism includes criticism of the Jewish State any more than criticism of Saudi Arabia or Iran is Islamophobia. Tell me what makes you think Corbyn is antisemetic?

 

Communists standing against fascists.
Wow.
And no one cares which wins.
Same ideology, different wankers.

Criticism of Australia is neither Islamophobic nor anti-Semetic

 

Nope, not many genuine fascists left in the uk or for that matter communists.
Are you saying you have never masturbated Baff? Or are you going to lie?
Always the funniest of insults a man calling another man a wanker!

 

Man or woman.

I met one fascist from Leicester.
Up until then I had the same thinking everyone else did "far right" authoritarians. Fascist = someone who tells me what to do. A policeman perhaps.

The authoritarian part turned out to be correct.

Basically to declare yourself a fascist after WW2 is essentially a declaration of anti socialness. The will not to fit in.
Calling yourself socialist is likewise another self declaration of social rejection. But much more widely acceptable in our country, (But not America, where you would call yourself an anarchist instead of a communist for McCarthy reasons).

Ideology wise. It's socialism heavy vs socialism lite. Corbyn vs Blair.

Control over the means of production vs Ownership over the means of production.
And effectively statism. Minority rule through Marxist methodology.
Same ****. Different wankers.

 

Which proves once again that the world is not divided into the good and the bad, the beautiful and the ugly, the righteous and the sinner.

At the time of the Spanish civil war, the left wasn't yet infected with the Kremlin issued brand of antisemitism. This appeared later, in the 60s, as the Soviets were courting Arab and Muslim states to gain influence at the expense of the West. The odious Baathist regimes of Syria and Iraq, for instance, were the best allies of the Soviet Bear in the region (which is probably why they're seen by the far left as friends and allies to this day). Antizionism at home, though, has always been a constant feature of totalitarian leftist regimes, because they feared not only different ideologies, but also spreading of dangerous subversive ideas through international organizations. As I said, ultranationalism is a basic feature of far left ideology. I know this for a fact, because I grew up in a country ruled by such a regime.

As an aside, why isn't the socialist meddling in Spanish internal affairs seen as imperialism and neo-colonialism? Just a thought.

I trust neither side when it comes to my people. Short term interests generally prevail over principles and good intentions, on all sides. They're all likely to throw allies and best friends under the bus for a bigger bone. It's the natural course of action for those tasked with serving country and nation. Governments are expected to do just that, which is one reason why someone like Merkel, for instance, was severely criticized and vilified when she allowed empathy and concern for welfare of other nations to take over her perceived duty to her nation. That's why I don't care what the Tories or the socialists did or did not years ago. Alliances shift and course of action changes as circumstances change.

Please stop telling me what I think, what ideology I follow, and why I do what I do. You're of course wrong on all counts, but this discussion is not about me. You do exactly what you accuse your opponents of doing - attack the messenger rather than the message, put poster in defensive mode, deflect from the topic, make poster look like a troll, report poster, warning or ban secured, opposition quashed. This method doesn't work with me.

Let's see what the IHRA definition says:

https://www.holocaustremembrance.com/working-definition-antisemitism

Free speech has nothing to do with IHRA definition of antisemitism. It's a definition, not a law.

Corbyn's demand that BBC reveals its workers' social status is a chilling reminder of the communists' "healthy social origin" meme. This is only one example of the similarities between what I described in my post and Corbyn's ideology.

Did I mention the Labour Manifesto? I speak of Corbyn and his cronies, not of Labour.

Again, I'm not talking about Labour. I'm talking about Corbyn,

http://uk.businessinsider.com/jeremy-corbyn-paid-iran-press-tv-tortured-journalist-2016-6

Corbyn's friends are Hezbollah and the Muslim Brotherhood, both as dangerous to Muslims as they are to non-Muslims. Birds of an authoritarian feather...

Once again we see the borg-ification of Jews by the left, and the "good leftist Jews vs. bad every other Jews" mantra. I won't even bother to reply.

 

Corbyn's been at it again today. Proposing a boycott of Arsenal football club because they accepted adverts from the Israeli tourist board.

He is making it very hard for me to keep defending him on this issue.

 

Only trouble is Baff, that happened in 2006! So he has not been at anything again, but someone has dredged this story up from the depths of nowhere to try to keep the pressure up.
But of course suggesting a football club should not take advertise from Israel is not antisemitism anyway.

 

That is correct there are good jews and bad jews just like every other race, creed and religion.

So you have excepted now the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact had nothing to do with the Spanish Civil war and go off on another ill informed rant once again stating your opinion as fact with nothing of substance to back it up

Because the left was the elected government of Spain and those who fought for the International Brigade had no intention of settling in Spain and imposing a different culture on the indigenous population the way the Jew immigrants to Palestine were doing at the time! Quite simple really!

Really? And who are your people that you are talking about? Israelis?

Perhaps that is because you do not deliberately call anyone a muslim when they are not or talk about filthy Iranians and Muslim filth you do not get reported, rather than any conspiracy theory about what I do, ever thought of that?

Antisemitism is a hate crime in the UK, and we are talking about the UK. Also if you are declared an antisemite by the Labour Party you are thrown out, my question is who the hell the IHRA think they are that they should define antisemitism?
Corbyn also suggested that the BBC should be free of government control, that the licence fee should be set by an independent body and poor people should get a license for free! But you fixate on his request that the social status of the workers be revealed and use that as evidence of your totalitarian control of the masses rant. What a joke! Having to say whether you went to a comprehensive or grammar school is according to what you wrote a "chilling reminder of the communists' "healthy social origin" meme" dream on!
By the way Bibi and the Israeli government by the definition of the IHRA are antisemetic since both keep referring to "the Jewish State" rather than Israel!

Since Corbyn is the democratically elected leader of the Labour Party it is reasonable to assume you understand that the Labour Party manifesto represents Corbyns policies, but you missed the opportunity to show any evidence of antisemitism because there is not any. You have nothing but slurs and the fact he does not slavishly support the Jewish State!

The political wing of Hezbollah are not a terrorist group according to the UN security council or the European Union and Hamas were not allowed to visit the UK because there is no way of getting out of the Jewish States prison camp without true authoritarian jewish permission. Corbyn says he regrets calling Hezbollah friends but again you ignore that fact. However how do you think there will ever be peace if the two sides do not talk and Corbyn was trying to be a facilitator of peace talks and agreement. Churchill said better to "jaw jaw than war war". The Good Friday agreement was brought about because of talks with the IRA, it is a fact of life that sometimes you have to try to bring odious groups like Hezbollah and the current government of the Jewish State together in order to get peace. But we know that the Jewish State just wants more, more land, more Jewish identity, more Palestinian rights removed, more revisionist history and more antisemitism around the world so that more Jews will steal more Palestinian land.

So you have been unable to find one elected body that represents British Jews to back up your claims and so deflect, dismiss and ignore!

The borg-ification of the Jews continues at a pace as the zionists reject any kind of assimilation of non Jews into the increasingly authoritarian Jewish State and continue with their attempts to create friction for Jews living in the Diaspora.

 

The most disgusting interview on BBC 1 this morning in which Marr spent at least half the time talking about the fake "antisemitism issue".

What matters to the people of the UK is Brexit, the housing crisis, education,imigration, austerity and the NHS among other issues.

Your average brit could not give a toss about murals and whether or not Corbyn said some zionists did not understand irony.

Get your act together Marr, focus on the real issues that matter to real people whether you agree with Corbyn or not.

 

For some time I have been curious about what the advantage is for a hard Brexit to the elite. Particularly important as it looks now that is what will be, pushing the UK into chaos and then probably its destruction with or without violence.

This article mentions a few.

He mentions first the xenophobes. They probably are most of the ones still wanting a hard Brexit given that it is obvious that this will not be good for the people of the UK in particular the poorer you get. But xenophobia alone would not have got a Brexit particularly a hard Brexit even on such a tiny majority. I remember during the campaign I heard nothing about a hard Brexit. All I heard was people saying that we would be in the same position except without a voice. This was a reasonable assumption. We know that Brexit was voted more strongly in areas in which people suffered the worst from austerity measures as shown in the map below.

https://boingboing.net/2018/07/31/austerity-kills.html

Which is based on a University of Warwick Study

Did Austerity cause Brexit

As it is known that two thirds of Labour supporters voted Remain we also know that Tory voters were/are more prominent supporters of a hard Brexit.

I only heard about the Hard Brexit after the referendum and suspect it was only the desire of a small minority from the beginning who did not make a song and dance of it during the referendum, rather made a somg and dance about how much the EU needed Britain and would do whatever they asked.

So the question remains what is the reason for those who are within the financially elite to vote for Brexit as we know they were also a significant part of the Brexit vote as well as Tory supporters in general being more likely to vote for Brexit. There has to be some reason for the financially elite to believe a hard brexit is in their interests. And there is

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...rom-a-hard-brexit_uk_5a3cc8cee4b0df0de8b06436

Even the Scottish Government believes that Westminster intends on taking back control of some items with which it currently has control but the change in rights including workers rights is likely to be massive when we get our new far right Prime Minister to replace May. Most voices seem currently to be backing Boris for the job. He himself is creating an anti Muslim image for himself and links with Trump and what not. I am sure people know Boris would do anything for political ambition..... weird but he would. That probably would be the final move of the UK into fascism which of course supports and will be supported by the Global Corporate Power as Neo Liberalism tries one last and extremely dangerous attempt to keep itself in power.

It is not surprising that during this time more media space is given to dissing the one place where Britain may be steered clear of this disaster, the Labour Party under Corbyn bringing the UK back to genuine democracy again. Instead of the emphasis of our media being on the Conservative Party tearing itself apart over Brexit and what will be the likely result of a hard Brexit for the UK they spend their time going on and on creating fake news about antisemitism in the Labour Party, crowning it now by suggesting he himself is.

A Democratic country for us all does not suit the elites who are after a hard Brexit.

 

I didn't watch but it fits in with what I said in the post below. With regard to the mural. When it came out even the Jewish Chronical only mentioned it had undertones of antisemitism - that is they did not recognise it as antisemitism.

https://www.jonathan-cook.net/blog/2018-03-26/the-sharks-circling-around-corbyn-scent-blood/

That gives a clear indication as to how the definition of antisemitism has changed in the last three years since Corbyn was elected.

I have to admit although initially I did look into these things I have not bothered in recent times. However the irony one was also not antisemitism. In order to make it antisemitism it looks like a gross exaggeration was made and things which were not considered antismetic at that time are now read into it as being so now. It has to be assumed that he is not talking about a Zionist but about all Jews, code naming them Zionists as indeed white nationalists do in order to make what he said antisemetic. Corbyn a WN now, what next?


In reality it appears that this was an answer to what one zionist in the audience had said.

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/inte...-jeremy-corbyn-says-doesn-t-get-english-irony

Ironically 124 news is an Israeli news agency media bias has it as centre for political view and among the least biased
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/i24-news/


Again no one would have suggested it was antisemitism when it was said. It was perfectly acceptable to call a supporter of Israel right or wrong a zionist at that time. Again it is illustrating what is considered antisemitic has changed and how freedom of speech in connection to Israel has been taken away in the last three years beginning when it became likely that Corbyn was going to become Leader of the Labour Party so much so that to our Press this issue can be used to create a moral panic and hide the reality that a Hard Brexit is likely to be the most destructive thing to the UK since WW2, which people are already talking about causing riots and which our Government is stockpiling food and medicine in anticipation of.

I think people who support Corbyn just see these things as smears for political gain. Crying Wolf however does create a real danger that genuine antisemitism from the far right which is where most British antisemitism is, could end up being ignored.

 

With regards to the painting the BBC chose to show the image, which really made me laugh since it gave a massive audience to something Marr obviously thought was antisemetic, interestingly the views of the artist who states the names of the bankers in the picture were not mentioned. Possibly because only two of the bankers were jews! I cannot help but think that antibankerism is on the rise(good).

The reference was made to specific Zionists who had been heckling in the hall and the police or security wanted them to stay, Corbyn ever a defender of free speech actually defended them!

 

The situation described simply here.






http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.com/2018/08/neoliberalism-is-to-blame-for-state-of.html

 

Q - When is Racism not actually racism?
A - When the Left employs it.

In the USA, for instance, it was the Democrats who
1 - engaged in slavery
2 - created segregation
3 - exacerbate racial divides to gain minority votes.

None of this to them is racism, or it wasn't them who did it in the past.
Republicans, however, are racist forever, no matter what they do.

Same can apply to the Corbyn case.

 

Excellent you will be able to give us an example of Corbyn being an antisemite then. Lets read it.