How To Finally Resolve the Abortion Debate

The population of the US has doubled in my lifetime.. Now we're 300 million..

 

Life.

I didn't say that they just shouldn't go running to the government regulated health system and expect it to pay for their abortion. I said "they just shouldn't go running to the government regulated health system and expect it to kill the life that they created." As in, if abortion is legal, it is because the government has allowed it to be inside the health system that it regulates, regardless of the privatised nature of the provision of the health service.

 

I don't know why you couldn't have just clicked on this link that I gave you before: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...bortion-debate.538967/page-26#post-1069689501

 

Do you have a moral argument after the child is born?

How is being forced to serve all customers NOT potentially being "forced to perform acts which they disagree with?"

 

Only the fact that the child is then a documented member of the population.

Should businesses profile or investigate prospective customers? If you have a product or service to sell, you should treat all willing customers the same. It's simply a business transaction, having nothing to do with race, gender, sexuality, religion, beliefs, non-beliefs, etc. and as long as they pay for what they want, what acts are you being "forced to perform"?

 

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WHERE?

WHEN? Got dates? Got proof? I didn't think so


DO tell when entire generations were wiped out due to abortion......AS YOU CLAIM!

OH NO IT'S NOT...……

You made an outrageous claim and cannot back it up....HILARIOUS!!!

 

If you show the link one more time I will report you for harrassment.

IF you have a question ask it.

I don't know why you just can't ask the question but have some weird need for me to click on your link.....I am NOT going to click on your link

 

Which is a legal argument. Okay, so you have no moral argument. Fair enough. Pro-choicers aren't able to have a moral argument on this so I'm not surprised.

Participation in a gay wedding for a start.

 

Why should I NEED a moral argument?

How would you be forced to participate in a gay wedding?

 

You don't, it's just that moral arguments are pretty good arguments to have don't you think?

Well not me, I don't provide a wedding service, but someone who does (a baker for example) cannot refuse service for a gay wedding. Haven't you heard about the baker cases?

 

No. You can’t.


And there is no such thing as some magical generation that evaporated because of abortion any more than some imaginary generation lost due to miscarriage.

 

Who told you about this imaginary group of people in and endless line to get abortion after abortion? Tax money does not pay for abortions.

 

It would depend on the argument.

I didn't agree with the outcome of the one case I heard about, but that's another issue.

 

You're not going to further defend your opinion that it isn't being forced to do something?

 

It isn't being forced to use one's body to physically (as in pregnancy) sustain the life of another....no one has to do that.

 

I believe there may be a thread on that topic, but this one needs to return to being about abortion.

 

It was another subject.

 

Heres how.

You remind our Republican friends that republicans in general supported abortion rights in the 60s and 70s

You remind them their idol, reagan, signed a landmark bill into law in California to allow abortion


You remind them the clergy opened the first real abortion clinic.

You then remind them their entire argument was designed by child rapists in the catholic church.

You then remind them their ideology is bullshit.

 

….."" being forced to use one's body to physically (as in pregnancy) sustain the life of another....no one has to do that" IS the subject.

 

Nope, all made up with no corraboration!

 

American anti-abortion laws were based largely on racism, the white supremacist and eugenicist belief that white women were having too many abortions, which was allowing the inferior non-whites to outbreed the superior whites.

There's still a racist streak in the pro-life movement. Look at the posters here, worried about birth rates in "the west" (code word for "whites"). White supremacists are overwhelmingly anti-abortion, at least when the abortions are for white women. However, pro-lifers are generally happy to look the other way if it's non-whites getting the illegal abortions. That's why Dr Gosnell (a pro-life role model) was able to operate his scummy clinic for so long. The pro-life goal is to have every abortion doctor be a Dr. Gosnell.

 

For more information on demographic reproductive problems regarding death and birth models I present people with this.

Keywords: Demographic bomb, demographic winter, fertility crisis, and population decline.

 

Yeah, it's so racist to want to preserve family life of one's own race and ethnicity along with not becoming racial minorities in our own nations.

Also, I can understand some African American communities taking a stance against abortion in that it is observable that abortion effects all people not only just white Europeans. I can empathize with others as hard as that might be for some to understand, I don't believe in superiority either for the record. I am really tired of this accusation that all ethnocentric people are supremacists, sure some are but not all myself included.

 

At what point is it outside the womb?

There is nothing FACTUAL about abortion taking away women's right to their own bodies! It is an OPINION! It might be worth your while learning the difference between FACT and OPINION because right now you are totally confusing the two!

 

The difference is, no life has to be killed under the government regulated health system for the lard ass to be treated.

By the way, would any US government actually pay for such a lard ass's health needs? Would this be covered by Medicare/Medicaid? Lifestyle choice leading to health issues is one of the things which support not having socialised healthcare! Fat b*stards and dirty smokers cost the Australian health system insane amounts of money!

Yes, I know that, I never said that it did! I'm saying that the government ALLOWS abortion under the health system that it is in charge of.

Your war argument holds no water. What are we supposed to do? Not fight? War is KILL or BE KILLED! Is that news to you?