Glocks and Nazi memorabilia: I'd get in trouble at home for what I saw at a US gun show

Don't be so negative. I have already altered my opinion when I read your previous post #67. 100% approval! As a young teenager I had to help when a pig was killed and slaughtered. My job was to stand beside my mother and stir the blood she collected from the pig's throat and dumped it into a pail. It was a heart-gripping experience to witness bringing a full-grown pig down and cut its throat. My Dad and the actual butcher, just another guy from the village, "anesthetized" the pig by holding a bolt on its forehead and then WANG with a big sledge hammer. The scream from the pig was earth shattering!
Life is gruesome and cruel, but it can be improved upon, IF we humans want to.

 

Agreed. Let's not forget the real main causes of death in America...and the silence the LWers have about those top ten causes of death.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm
Number of deaths for leading causes of death

• Heart disease: 635,260
• Cancer: 598,038
• Accidents (unintentional injuries): 161,374
• Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 154,596
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 142,142
• Alzheimer’s disease: 116,103
• Diabetes: 80,058
• Influenza and pneumonia: 51,537
• Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,046
• Intentional self-harm (suicide): 44,965

 

Because the US got a gun problem, where Europe does not. It is,.. like it or not.
Shoot outs, school shootings... we all saw South Park where it got ridiculed that it's all the new norm.

Austria is a republic just like the US, where royalty doesn't play any roll what so ever. So that doesn't set the US apart from the other countries. What the US sets apart is that, in the case of Donald Trump,.. is not just him the people voted in. But also his wife, his daughter and even the freaking son in law. As if nepotism isn't a dirty word. Mind you, it wouldn't be much better with Hillary Clinton... I mean, we have to add the first name otherwise we could be accidentally talking about Clinton. Than we got the Bush's and also the Kennedy's.

While Merkel. Well she's been in power for I dunno... 12 years? I don't even know IF she has a husband or wife

It's a historic fact that Dems and GOPs have close races. And it doesn't take that long before one loses the elections. And what they do is overturn each others laws.

They are hardly independent. They get billions in military aid by the Americans, as well as fierce political aid. It would be nowhere without it. Hence, you can not possible say they are fiercely independent, but a tiny dot on the world map who is unwilling to make peace with it's minorities and it's neighbors.

 

She is married to Mr. Sauer since 1998:

He’s a Professor at the Humboldt University of Berlin
It's her second marriage. She kept her name from the first marriage.

https://breaking-news.questions1.co...erkels-husband-5-fast-facts-you-need-to-know/




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Guns in responsible hands is the best way to prevent crime.

 

Claiming a "gun problem" is deceiving. You can also say the US has an "auto problem" whereas Europe does not and be equally correct.

Still, thanks for the proof that LW anti-gunners want the US to be more like Europe.

 

The topic here is
"Glocks and Nazi memorabilia: I'd get in trouble at home for what I saw at a US gun show, "

and talking about how Americans brainwash themselves into believing in the Gun Culture seems to be right on that.

 

Agreed 100%. Why do you think the anti-gun Left keeps trying to treat all lawful gun owners as criminals? Heck, there are posts on this forum labeling them "gun nuts" and a danger to society.

 

First, "Gun Culture" is a term contrived by the anti-gun advocates in order to demonize the right of self-defense just like "fake news" was contrived to demonize the right of a free press. Hope you understand why I have no respect for the extremes on either end of the political spectrum.

Second, the only Americans brainwashing themselves are those pining to be just like Europe. My advice: move there. I'd even contribute to a GoFundMe page to move every anti-gun Euro-lover out of the USA.

 

Europe has far fewer random massacres by total madmen. We could stand to be more like Europe in that respect.

If you want to be regarded as responsible citizens you should act like such, Stop defending the "rights" of madmen to be armed to the teeth.

 

It's not deceiving to say the US has a gun problem. It simply has a massive amount of weapons distributed among it's civilian population. And with that, all the problems that go with it. Cops being scared everyday if they get to go home at the end of their shift, because of the mass shootings happen a couple of times a week. With such a stockpile, it's a no brainer it also end up in the hands of the criminal / criminal insane. Most cops in the UK don't even carry guns. Go figure.

 

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You should move there and stop trying to shred the US Constitution.

Dude, I'm not defending "madmen". I've been a constant proponent of better mental health care in the US to give these "madmen" the help they need. All you've offered is banning guns. Why?

 

Sure, just like it's not deceiving to say the US has an auto problem or an obesity problem. The difference between you and me is that I'm not advocating banning cars or unhealthy food.

 

It's not deceiving in any way. Your comparisons have nothing to do with guns.
While you don't make any attempt to give a counter argument against what I put up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

 

I have yet to read a 2nd Amendment supporter advocate arming madmen "...to the teeth"

I have, however, read individuals advocate for "European style gun control" which would include absurdly draconian & unconstitutional laws that will not address America's violence problem as there are:

- already hundreds of millions of guns in circulation,

- not enough resources are devoted to mental health and ...

- criminals, by definition, do not obey laws.

 

i also support better mental health care, and part of that is making it more difficult for people with mental health problems to get guns. Whenever that's even suggested the NRA types act like anyone daring to even suggest that people with mental issues shouldn't have guns is trying to incarcerate Elwood P.Dowd again. WTF is it with you gunnies anyway? You act like life is just not worth LIVING unless you can lovingly clean your Glock every evening

 

Disagreed, but thanks for proving my point that you want to single out guns and totally disregard the big picture about what is a problem and what isn't in America compared to your favorite region of the world: Western Europe.

 

I have no problem preventing criminals and the mentally ill from accessing anything that they can use to harm others. My problem with your advocacy is that you see to punish the majority of innocents for the fraction of society which are seeking to do others harm.

Thanks for demonizing the NRA. Again, like "fake news" it's just a false narrative to demonize a legitimate organization.

 

They do by clear inference and unavoidable implicaton

That's the whole problem really, when you have so many of anything it's nearly impossible to keep people from getting them, laws or not

I'll agree with you there, entirely and without qualification

Bank Robbers will still rob banks, laws or not. Therefore we shouldn't have laws against bank robbery, right? By your reasoning here we shouldn't have laws, period.

 

How am i seeking to punish anyone?

 

Your only point is to go off topic. After all, you made zero attempts to rebuke the US gun problem.

 

Do you not support the restriction of guns for innocent, law abiding citizens?

 

Dude, I refute the idea the US has a gun problem. Ergo, nothing to rebuke. I'm sure others understood this from my previous posts. Sorry you did not, but understood why you don't.

 

By dragging in examples that has nothing to do with guns... so you failed to refute.

 

Stay on topic or you can buzz off too. I get that you and your buddy jazz love to defend Nazi germany and act like they were the poor sweet innocent victims but it ain’t working dude.