Breaking - Gunman opens fire during college event at California bar - At Least 12 Dead

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  1. Wildjoker5

    Wildjoker5 Well-Known Member

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    One say the US will get to the amount killed in Germany between 1940 and 1948 from "mass shootings", till then, spare us your sanctimonious drivel.
     
  2. Josh77

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    No pity is wanted. Europe lost its greatness after its populace was disarmed. You are just a shadow of what you used to be. You are lucky we’ve been kind enough to keep you safe all these years.
     
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    The state of California already does all of the above and far more. Therefore there is nothing left to do on the matter except note that incidents will still occur.
     
  4. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I propose every household own an assault rifle and any heavy weapons their hearts desire.
     
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    That is a very round about way of saying there is no real evidence for the claim that Democrats favor banning all guns.
     
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    Irrelevent unless you assume guns don't go across state lines.
     
  7. Josh77

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    So I guess California better drop their stupid gun control laws so their citizens can defend themselves, because guns are not going anywhere.
     
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    A business with a no guns sign in the window has zero legal authority, a concealed carrier can walk right into the business and not be breaking the law. Now if the business owner finds out he can ask you to leave and you can be charged with trespassing if you refuse but nothing will come of ignoring the gun sign. This is common knowledge here in CA.
    As far as not carrying in a bar, I can’t link a statute, the verbiage was in the application I signed.
     
  9. MMC

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    Do you deny they put forth legislation last year to ban all automatics including pistols, extended clips, and included shotguns?

    That was more than few that brought their lameness in front of the cameras.

    Typical leftist trying to deny the truth about what your own Demos have said out their useless pie holes.

    Next you will try to come up with some ridiculous excuse about common sense gun control.
     
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    No, its very blatant that even the followers, voters of the democrats believe the left wants to restrict almost everything. Sure, you aren't for banning all guns cause you will still allow people to have Dillinger's right?
     
  11. Crownline

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    It’s a moot point anyhow, Thousand Oaks is in Los Angeles county and Los Angeles does not issue permits. A movie star or heavy campaign contributor might get one but you or me can just forget about it.
     
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    Did he get the gun across state lines? No? He bought it in CA, modified it in CA, had the CA background check. The CA mental health screening. But sure, say that a national level law will stop this, that's all we need is one more layer for criminals to break the law, and that will stop them right?
     
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    It's actually in Ventura County, which is slightly better about issuing CCW than LA County is.
     
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    I understand what you are saying and thank you for being a serving wife. I am a Vietnam Veteran therefore as a Veteran I am sensitive to reading crap in the media that just cannot seem to wait to tell us a person who did something wrong is a Veteran. When I got back from Vietnam the term PTSD was not invented yet. When I heard the term PTSD I at first denied that I had it. My wife who was my girl friend back then reminded me of some of the things I did. Lucky I had a mild affect and after heavy drinking for six months and wrecking a brand new car I saw the light. Went back to college got married bought fix up yourself House went to work raised a family with my bride.

    I have been volunteering at my local VA hospital and though I am not in the mental health side I know that we have an active PTSD program, crises line, Vet To Vet mental health talk sessions , psychologists, psychiatrists etc. We have an active reach out program but not all troubled Vets reach back out. I have volunteered as a substitute in the Vet To Vet sessions but there were days that only one Vet showed up or none showed up. I have spoken with mental health staff and they have a NO SHOW problem just as we over in Physical Medicine have. No Show is our term forvwhen a Vet fails to show up for his/her appointment.

    Maybe if all Vets had a wife like you or my wife or family like that there would fewer Vets who feel that they are in the dark out there.
     
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    I’ll be damned, you are right.
     
  17. Mandelus

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    I thought WW-2 started in 1939 and ended in 1945, not in 1940 with end in 1948? ;-)

    Anyway ... I have no clue what you mean with mass-shootings now. I think you mean mass-executions?
    If this is the case ... sorry to say ... these nefarious mass executions were carried out by soldiers and other security personnel ... not by idiots who can buy weapons legally and then run around indiscriminately shooting other people and committing massacres!
     
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    I hope they discover how he got the extended magazine. Putting the responsible people out of business and in jail should have a chilling effect.
     
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    Lol ... again someone who writes this total idiocy and even then believes himself.
    That the nonsense is so disproved with countless facts, you certainly ignore the same stubborn as you continue to believe the nonsense you have written here!

    And your great protection amounts only to the questionable nuclear protection screen because of counter-strike if someone else uses nuclear weapons against us. Otherwise, you pulled everything off and Virginia's National Guard is stronger than what you have left in the armed forces in Europe!
    And even what has been in the past has another side to it: for having "protected" us, we were also the designated shooting range for you ... including atomic weapons!
     
  20. Mandelus

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    And for what do you have police again? Then make a private arms race in the US ... eleminate the institution of the police and do something like the movie "The Purge", eh?
     
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    When police show up it is far too late. It would take police 20 minutes to get out to where I live. An armed confrontation can be over in seconds. Only a fool relies on police for protection. I have great respect for them however.
     
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    Well, quit being a bunch of p*ssies then.
     
  23. MissingMayor

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    The number of people who would oppose a household firearm where everyone in the house is of sound mind is virtually nil. I would like you to register the gun so it does not "slip" into the black market.
     
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    And why does all this not work propper at least?
    Sure, 100% safety is no where and with nothing given ...
    but obviously there is a gap through which the guy hatched unrecognized, eh?
    Maybe the law here may be OK, but if it's not used wisely, it's worthless. That should perhaps being investigated to improve it for the future ... with what hever following consequences to do it?
     
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    Do you have any facts for your blabbering ... or do you just hang around because my indifference to the incident does not suit you?
     

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