Ukrainian Army Shells Donetsk Residential Areas With Massive Artillery Fire

no...the active Russian mercs wagners, and military servicemen are using them as shields...many of those so called "rebels" actually wised up and aren't going to be used as bait...Jeanette-ova, the vatniks are just taking the spoils, and the locals have to do the dirty work....why do you think, hellomoto, givi, mad zak, were killed off?

I see Ukraine didn't burn hell for damnation like you claimed when they were killed, the residents were only to glad to be rid of this "novorussias" zvolotch...ROFL.

BTW....do you even know exactly where Ukraine is?? Ever been there, or just what sputnik, Pravda, fort russ tells you!!!

wheres the vids of those riots in kharkiv? im waiting?

 

Oh geez scarlet..., didn't you say some of your family members lives in good ole USof A....but you still love us.

 

Still hung in your -"gook, sand monkey - de-humanize the other Vatnik" LINGO eh Zoomy ?
...............................more interested in the technology and body count than to the Human co$t

 

Oh it was Russian jets that did this to Lugansk - that way they would think it's the American junta in Kiev and turn against them. How devious! Thank God the people in Donbas wised up and killed their own heroes.

Gosh, what would we do without your informative imput. Such genius, such brilliance can only come from Western Ukraine.

 

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Ooooops! I forgot my place.

I am an agnostic but I never criticized religion for not being a useful "safe space" for those who otherwise would be running amok without purpose.

 

It would be nice if it were a joke .... but it ain't.

 

No examples yet? Not even one? A difficult task isn't it.

 

Now I'm trying to figure out just how the American military ended up in all of those nations if they didn't actually "bring war with them". Is it your contention perhaps that those countries kidnapped your Army and brought them "home" with them to force the Americans to kill the population of the host country? Shizaam! That's a new one!

 

they moved...

 

Oooooo!

 

First, let's skip all that stupid, ignorant and one-sided propaganda gossip.
As always, the typical behavior in this OP is again to see that bullshit media, which are reported to 99% only propagandistic garbage report, are called a reputable source!
If I read like her ein the OP that Sputnik News is the source then I do not need to open the link or read what the trolls are saying ... just because it's just bullcrap and can only be!
Of course, there is also the same sort of bullshit media as Sputnik News on thje other side too, for example Breitbart ... not that anyone here thinks I'm one-sided or something like this.
And then we have an immovable stance on both sides, not only making them blind to facts, but also turning people into propoganda clowns when they sell and, most of all, only accept the bullshit of their propaganda media as the only true truth!

If we omit all this stupid, idiotic, superfluous chatter and behavior, then we have a deeply divided country with Ukraine ... well, you can even say it is a Yugoslavia 2.0 in principle, but only 2 and not more "Fractions" exist as in Yugoslavia at the outbreak of the civil war once there.
We had a pro-Russian president, Viktor Yanukovych, who came to power more or less democratically and who triggered the Maidan cause because a large part (majority maybe) was annoyed with:

- Non-signing of the Association Agreement with the European Union by the Ukrainian Government!
- Russia's trade sanctions against Ukraine and its pressure on Ukraine to join the customs union between Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus, to which Yanukovych gave way!
- high unemployment, corruption in the state organs at all levels ... including the serious and direct allegation against Yanukovich, who is said to have embezzled about 100 billion USD!
- excessive police violence in the resolution of protests on November 30, 2013

We all know that Yanukovych has lost and we all know that then the great Russian minority, which in turn represents the clear majority in the Crimea and Donbass, rebelled again ... and we have the result today!
And yes, there are also Nazis in Ukraine, but there are also Nazis on the Russian side ... and the civil war is dirty, nasty and bloody on all sides ... and is fueled by both sides again and again! Like a recall of Bosnia in the 1990's for me!

Here, the Kerch incident is something I blame Russia for! I do not mind that the Crimea went to Russia ... but when Russia starts making territorial claims that everything in the Sea of Azov needs permission to pass through, my understanding stops!
I'd like to see Russia if the Turks do the same with Russian ships on the Bosphorus!

 

Of course you blame Russia Mandelus. Hell yes you blame Russia. All good subjects of the western media blame Russia. That is your duty to the state Mein Herr. You serve it well.

You demonstrate the success of the misinformation efforts of western propagandists.

You think as you are told to think, and care not for the truth on any given matter.

 

News to Yah
The Turks do exactly that ! - It's called "Traffic Control"
Also - Russia has not threatened Turkish Infrastructure in the Bosporus
...........whereas the Ukraine has made very clear & credible threats

After such threats I would not be surprised to see Russia demand to search
every Ukrainian vessel and demand an enforced ceasefire in the Donbass

The West wants to unfairly sanction and cripple Russia's economy - Russia
has ways to retaliate and they will start by squeezing the neck of Washington's
fascist Proxy in the Ukraine.

US, Europe & NATO
Risk All-out War By Backing Unhinged Kiev Regime
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/50672.htm

From The Article:
It seems indisputable that the three Ukrainian Navy vessels were dispatched last
Sunday in order to instigate a security response from Russian maritime border
forces. In contrast to normal procedures for passage clearance through the Kerch
Strait, the Ukrainian warships refused to communicate with Russian controls and
acted menacingly inside Russia’s Black Sea territorial limits.
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It is the West’s refusal to acknowledge facts that is part of the problem. Russia is
continually accused of “annexing” Crimea in 2014 instead of the Western powers
recognizing that the Black Sea peninsula voted in a constitutionally held referendum
to secede from Ukraine and join the Russian Federation. Crimea was prompted to
take that historic step because the US, EU and NATO had only the month before
backed an illegal coup in Kiev against the elected Ukrainian government. That coup
brought to power the present Kiev regime led by Poroshenko and a parliament
dominated by neo-Nazi parties.
&
When Russian President Vladimir Putin officially opened the 19km bridge linking
Russia’s mainland with Crimea in May earlier this year, there were calls in US and
Ukrainian media for the structure to be sabotaged. Moscow has understandably
stepped up security controls around the vital infrastructure,


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That .... is the most important message.

 

A very interesting observation.

 

Don't worry about the Russians. They know how to play international musical chairs. They are the champions.

 

Not only do I see that completely differently as stated ... that is, Russia has not the slightest right to control anything or even to intervene as now, however, Ukraine has every right there with whatever happens at any time, without asking the Russia must etc.

In my opinion, you are also interpreting far too much stuff here and seeing some absurd connections between evil NATO / evil USA / evil EU and Ukraine who have their fingers in the game.
I do not deny that our western idiots are doing stupid things there ... so do not get me wrong ... but here's the stuff! Russia had not the slightest right to do what they did and all that came from Russia as justification is just mischief and "throwing sand in the eyes of others".

 

I'm not an expert on Ukrainian history, but it is a fact that Russia annexed Crimea from Turkey in 1783. In 1954, the Soviet Premier, Khrushchev gave Crimea to Ukraine (which was also part of the Soviet Union) in a 'decree' that has been disputed for decades as being unconstitutional.

When the legitimate government of Ukraine was overthrown by a coup centered in Kiev in 2014, Russia gave asylum to the Ukraine president Yanukovych, and, to protect ethnic Russians in Crimea (plus to protect the Russian Navy's Black Sea Fleet in Savastopol), Russia took back Crimea.

Like I said, I'm no expert, but I am a realist, and someone who has studied Vladimir Putin for about ten tears. My unsolicited advice to any of the Ukrainian rulers in Kiev would be -- do not (NOT) try to f*ck with Vladimir Putin! Right or wrong, he can have all of you scrambling to escape to Switzerland any time he finds it in Russia's best interest to do so....

 

Crimea was turkish from way back when from 1783....hell the entire RF is made of stolen/annexed land.....Putinka is good at beating up defenseless countries.....anyone with capabilities and he's just a punk)!

 

True, and George W. Bush proved that back in 2008 when he halted Vlad the Invader's goon squads in Georgia by parking a couple of C-17s on the tarmac of Tblisi International Airport.

I don't need to tell you what happened the next time Putler pushed his luck with American forces in Syria...

 

no...it was feeding time...the eagle was hungry!!).

 

FAKE NEWS

is this was true, Russia would have invaded

 

The sheer viciousness of wanting to destroy an infrastructure shocked Russia at the time. Can you imagine a nation calling to destroy one of our bridges? The sheer evil of it is unbelievable. Today the Nato aligned Atlantic Council called for Ukraine to sabotage the bridge, and to bring Nato ships into the Azov Sea to call Russia's bluff.

What bluff? These fools think that the Russian people will not go to war. How little they know about the country amazes me - even when proven wrong each and every time.

It's not that brilliant and knowledgeable men do not exist in our country, but the Cohen's, the Chomsky's, and the Roberts have been pushed aside by heads so swollen from hubris, that it blinds them from reality and renders them idiots.

 

And the Turks stole it from the Greeks, and Catherine the Great freed them.