No 2nd Amendment for Blacks?

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by Starjet, Nov 28, 2018.

  1. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2016
    Messages:
    14,301
    Likes Received:
    6,629
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes while it was stupid for the Fedex driver to get out, who took the first punch? If some criminal took a shot at me and missed, should I run away, and give him another chance to shoot at me, or do I shoot back. Self defense.
     
    Last edited: Nov 29, 2018
  2. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2013
    Messages:
    19,306
    Likes Received:
    7,614
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Certainly, considering the percent of the Black population is 12.3% (.3 + .7 = )
    White people killers are proportional to the general population.
    While Black People killers are inversely off.
    If 12.3% of the General Population is Black, how come 90% of killed Black people are killed by other Black people?

    @notme consider answering the questions posed you @notme above.

    I am a member of 23AndMe and I don't need no computer chip because my DNA is on file.
    And my DNA probably furthers medical advances for us all.



    How about DNA - Anger Management - Melanin.
    Or DNA Anger Management. Then ;)



    And PAH Leeze
    Crazy White Guy shooter is a different pathology
    than a single shooter.
     
  3. rcfoolinca288

    rcfoolinca288 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2016
    Messages:
    14,301
    Likes Received:
    6,629
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Did the man have a chance to "inform" the officers before he got shot?
     
  4. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2007
    Messages:
    63,174
    Likes Received:
    4,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Again, "real" difference. As in "difference that really matters".
     
  5. Starjet

    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2009
    Messages:
    5,805
    Likes Received:
    1,678
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes. In this instance, the police with the DA ruled sel-defense. Still, a death sentence for a word?
     
  6. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2013
    Messages:
    38,026
    Likes Received:
    16,042
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    The Black Panther abused their Second Amendment rights.

    The California state legislature response was not to pass a law against open carry but to pass a law against openly carrying a loaded weapon on public property.

    It was a slippery slope.
     
  7. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,402
    Likes Received:
    11,561
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How so? Does the Constitution not apply on public property in your opinion? With respect to confronting government minions, did Cliven Bundy and his supporters abuse their 2nd Amendment rights?
     
  8. JET3534

    JET3534 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2014
    Messages:
    13,402
    Likes Received:
    11,561
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Blacks are an important demographic for the Dims, do you claim otherwise.
     
  9. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2014
    Messages:
    32,222
    Likes Received:
    12,253
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You should consult a counselor to assist you with your phobia. And please, if you ever do decide to own a firearm, take a safety class. Your ignorance in firearm safety is harmful to society. Especially the advice you gave the other poster yesterday that contradicts firearm safety.
     
  10. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    59,152
    Likes Received:
    4,614
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Revealing that no one even entertains the thought that they might of instead been targeting someone carrying a visible handgun.
     
  11. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2013
    Messages:
    38,026
    Likes Received:
    16,042
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No !!!

    Cliven Bundy was on BLM land which is the open range, the peoples land that only the Department of Interior manages.

    Most Americans who live east of what is the "West" are unfamiliar what BLM land is.

    Basically if you want to hunt, fish or camp out on BLM land you can do it and don't need any permission or permits, etc to do so.

    If you are a cattle rancher you can allow your cows to roam on the open range.

    You can not become a squatter on BLM land, you are limited to 30 days of occupying BLM land and then have to move on.

    Cliven Bundy was right and was found not guilty in a federal court and it was a land grab by the Obama administration to take away the peoples land and turn it into a "national monument" which means, regulations, restrictions, laws, fences, locked gates and limited access by the public.

    Forty years ago the entire Mojave Desert in California except for Death Valley was BLM land. Not any more, Democrats took the Mohave Desert away from the people.

    Back in 1978 there were 38 cattle ranchers on the Mohave Desert in California. Today there are only 3 or 4 who remain.

    Re: Cliven Bundy where his cattle roamed on the open range, Obama turned it into a national monument. No cows allowed to roam on a national monument.

    But President Trump returned most of Obama's national monument back to the people.
     
    Moi621 likes this.
  12. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Messages:
    13,029
    Likes Received:
    6,084
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It actually makes more sense to me than your reaction to it. First off, it's just basic respect to hear a man out who has a problem with you, as well as to explain yourself and address the others problem. Second, the man cursed and ranted and raved a blue streak. Then he threw a drink in the delivery mans face. Cursed him more. And then tried to punch the delivery man in the face. That's when the delivery man struck back once in the mans face, and he fell. According to the ME, the punch did not kill him. He died from his own poor health. I'm guessing his heart....probably from living in a constant state of rage, and possibly alcoholism. The authorities ruled it self defense. Six different eye witnesses upheld and corroborated the ruling.
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  13. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2010
    Messages:
    59,152
    Likes Received:
    4,614
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Agreed. When did simple prejudice become racism in the American language?
    Guess who is now a racist under that meaning.

    “There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.” Jesse Jackson
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2018
    Injeun likes this.
  14. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    53,683
    Likes Received:
    25,620
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Most informed supporters of the 2nd amendment appreciate the Black Panthers' contribution to the right to bear arms.
    Black Americans should not have to live and move in our deadly urban Hell Holes without a firearm.

    “The Ku Klux Klan, Ronald Reagan, and, for most of its history, the NRA
    all worked to control guns. The Founding Fathers? They required gun
    ownership—and regulated it. And no group has more fiercely advocated the
    right to bear loaded weapons in public than the Black Panthers—the true
    pioneers of the modern pro-gun movement. In the battle over gun rights
    in America, both sides have distorted history and the law, and there’s
    no resolution in sight.”
    THE ATLANTIC, The Secret History of Guns, By Adam Winkler, winkler@law.ucla.edu, Law professor,UCLA, September 2011.
    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/09/the-secret-history-of-gu

    The DP and its satellites, like the KKK have been prime movers in disarming black Americans. Republican pols, for the most part are just short sighted, foolish and uninformed. Republicans are generally indifferent to the destruction of the black American community, culture and family.
    Real institutional racism has always been, and remains the hallmark of the DP.
     
  15. Ddyad

    Ddyad Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2015
    Messages:
    53,683
    Likes Received:
    25,620
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Self defense is a fundamental human right. There was no "death sentence" only a court of law can impose that punishment.
    The right to self defense is not a right to punish.
     
  16. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Messages:
    13,029
    Likes Received:
    6,084
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Noah's just another dope, crying wolf. When the Police are called to a Mall shooting, you don't want to be the one holding a gun when they arrive. That's a no brainer. Your color doesn't matter. The gun does. Still it is tragic that a good, innocent man, is dead.
     
    Moi621 likes this.
  17. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2011
    Messages:
    25,944
    Likes Received:
    8,889
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yep, if there is a mall shooting, shoot every "good guy with a gun"
     
  18. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The exact same reason that by far white people almost always get killed by white people. More than half of the people killed, are killed by their own friends or family members. Says a lot how segregated the US is and it shows that different ethnicity don't mix. That great melting pot is a myth. Hence Travor notes that a white dude blowing the brains out of a bunch of praying Jews, and shoots down some cops as well, lives to tell the tale. And a black security guard gets killed by cops when doing it's job. Fact is still, white people kill more than black people. Race plays a massive roll.
     
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2018
  19. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Messages:
    13,029
    Likes Received:
    6,084
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Hey, I don't get it either. Wouldn't you say, "Hey, what are you doing. Identify yourself. Drop the gun" Instead of just opening fire on him?
     
  20. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2013
    Messages:
    42,019
    Likes Received:
    5,395
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Last time I checked, they still are a massive minority in the US.
     
  21. Injeun

    Injeun Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Messages:
    13,029
    Likes Received:
    6,084
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Just as a benchmark reminder: Blacks are not at the bottom of the statistical pile, with whites at the very top, as so many seem to assume. Per Capita, Native Americans are actually at the bottom as far as being killed and incarcerated by LEO's. Black Americans come after that. Next come Hispanic Americans. Then whites Americans. Then Asian Americans at the top or the least represented per capita, incarcerated and killed by LEO's. So generally speaking, it's Asians(top), Whites, Browns, Blacks, then Natives(bottom).
     
  22. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't think that was the case.

    We can only wait and see.
     
  23. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2013
    Messages:
    19,306
    Likes Received:
    7,614
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    MAJOR YAWN!
    -----------------------------------------------------------------

    When 12.3% of Americans are Black
    And 90% of killed Black persons are killed by another, Black Person;
    The lone White shooter is the fall back not analogous, analogy.

    Have fun with yourself. ;)

    It was proposed some "real" science be considered and not taboo
    over liberal assumptions.

    And Red Heads too.


    Moi :oldman:
    Scored class credit for Biochemistry by examination.





    Study :flagcanada:s too
     
  24. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2018
    Messages:
    9,808
    Likes Received:
    2,351
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Last edited: Nov 30, 2018
    Moi621 likes this.
  25. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,802
    Likes Received:
    9,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

Share This Page