Democrat Ilhan Omar wins Minnesota House race

I welcome an opponent,
But I want someone who is familiar with the religion.
I want someone who can quote from Ishaq, Taburi, Bukhari, Muslim.
someone who knows about the restrictions on the Qur'an.
I want to look up anything said. I offer that.

 

Why would anybody respond to your ridiculous Islamophobic ramblings?

Most of the time your composts are incoherent.

I read you for entertainment........and to answer the eternal question:

How bizarre can an Islamophobic hatemonger's ramblings get?

 

That is so stupid.
Do you want some cheese with your whine.
Read again, slowly this time.
I back up everything I say about Islam, from Islamic text.

I didn't write the religion, I just read it.

 

How about when all the Christians distance themselves from " an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" or " thou shall not suffer a harlot to live" or any of the thousand other idiocies in the bible.

Or maybe when the reject any Members of government who have violated the ten commandments.

 

That's Jewish.

I believe the Christians distanced themselves with the New Covenant.

 

Funny my bible still has the Old Testament. Must have missed the recall.

 

Sure did, The coming of Jesus changes the rules.
Now we, Turn the other cheek
Love thy enemy,
casting the first stone.
stuff like that.

I think you just didn't pay any attention during confirmation.

 

You forgot practicing hypocrisy. And I must have missed Jesus saying the Old Testament was just BS. Perhaps you can point me to the verse.

 

I'm not that well read on Christianity, so I can't point to a specific reference, other than the way it is practiced.
Growing up Protestant, this is what we were taught.

 

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. 18For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19So then, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.…"​

Matthew 5:18

You're gonna be called Least in Heaven. Is Les okay down here?

And none of this matters one little bit, no, not a jot and definitely not a tittle. Religion is something you USE to JUSTIFY your killing and ALL religions have providing that justification as one of their major functions. Thank uh...somebody, that NOBODY really follows their religion, not ...uh...religiously, they really never have, not throughout all of history, and hopefully they never will, or all of humanity will be dead in a week.

I'm going to repeat myself; Just because you're a stoned fanatic about your religion doesn't mean everybody is.

 

LOLOLOL

"MY religion", and what religion would that be.

There are actually 2 controversial verses from Jesus, that one, and another where he brings in a sword.
Both are in Matthew, and nobody knows who wrote it.
Both go against the teachings in 4 books, so it is hard do validate them.
Also the Christians practice the ten commandments, from Moses, and not the 618 laws of the torah.

 

6 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’B)" 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

Matthew 22;36-40

And in case you haven't noticed I have just contradicted MY OWN argument.

The Bible can be made to say anything you want it to, so can the Torah, the Koran, the Rig Vedas and the Tao te ching. About the only religious text i know of that makes murder even slightly difficult is the Kama Sutra and they figure there you'll die of exhaustion

 

You're a bloody trip, my friend. First you say you haven't read the Bible all that much and now you're arguing how certain parts that contradict you are "controversial" though it's in every Bible I've ever seen.

Fine, fine. We all know what's going on here.

Do you have any other religious texts that show us how the Hispanics are all coming to kill us too?

 

That's not what I said,
I actually did read the bible cover to cover back in the 60's when I was a Christian.
But anyone can see from my posts , I am neither Christian nor Muslim.
The bible is pretty vague in lots of crap, stuff that a desert dweller 2000 years ago would believe, but hey, grow up.
The Qur'an is worse than the bible, You have to know how to read it, and where to resource what you are reading. but there is a key, the Sunnah, most written very plainly.
I do refer to the "sky daddy's" all the time.
I did study Islam, and am very well versed In the religion.

Any comments I make about Christianity, probably are subject to scrutiny, as I am going from memory.

 

And nothing you're said so far indicates that any person can be considered any thing whatsoever just for being a muslim

 

No more that a person in a KKK outfit.
He/she might be a fine person.
Or a Nazi, they have nice people in there also.


Just because their philosophy is evil, warped, fu-cked up, doesn't mean they are.

 

Not all Germans are Nazis
Not all Southerners are KKK
And not all muslims are ISIS

 

That's correct.

However it does not change the 1200 year writings.

And I'm not speaking of, all the southerners.
I am speaking of the ones wearing the KKK costume.

Just like I am not speaking of all Germans,
I am speaking of the ones wearing the Nazi regalia.

When I see a muslim advertising his religion. he/she is the one I am speaking of.

 

I was a Protestant child and never heard my minister tell me the old testament was obsolete.

 

That is true. But the ones who did not oppose are not absolved of guilt.

 

If you do not believe Christianity, then nothing about Christianity including Hell and Heaven has any influence on you.

And your arguement has nothing to do with the Christian person, but the Christian religion and whether you believe the religion.

I wonder if a voodoo priestess made an effigy of you, would you be afraid simply because she believed the effigy would control you?

 

Except for those tried at Nuremberg I don't know of any Nazis who were prosecuted for war crimes.
And despite much handwringing about following orders not being an excuse I think that only applied to the top echelons of the high command, at lower levels it was accepted de rigueur. If you wouldn't obey orders to kill Jews, you would likely die there and then yourself and your family would follow as an example
You can't just go and prosecute whole populations, no matter what was done by some of them. Though many of the Islamophobes here seem hell bent to try

 

Well, that was your church.

The OT is basically a history book of times past.
The coming of Jesus usher's in a whole new meaning.

Now it is all about forgiveness.
Turning the other cheek,
stuff like that.

If your church group never told you about the teachings of Jesus,, there is nothing I can say.

 

You're asking me to research and write a book. That's a complicated question, which calls for a great deal of speculation. I won't do that, but I would suggest that this inherently silly scenario would've resulted in a great deal less "oppression" from the English.

Why, you ask?

Look at geopolitics. The English were concerned about their main rivals--Catholic France and Catholic Spain---with a potential ally on England's doorstep in the form of Catholic Ireland. Think about it, and tell me things would still have been the same.

 

Ah.......it would be so much better if you said nothing.

Allow me to help.

The term "New Testament" (also called "New Covenant") just means "New Agreement."

This "Agreement" relates to the salvation of men's souls........and only that small part of the Law and the Prophets (more about that later).

The new agreement was invented by the false Apostle Saul/Paul........it became wildly popular because it was based on the notion that the suffering and death of the mythical "Christ" gave you a free ticket to heaven.

The old agreement actually expected you to DO SOMETHING........care for the poor, feed the hungry, comfort the afflicted, fight for justice, refrain from being a greedy jackass.......actual works of sweat and sacrifice--energy and money expended.........IN ORDER TO GET TO HEAVEN.

See? No free ticket to heaven.......you had to sweat for it.

So.......the only thing the New Testament changes is ........... THAT AGREEMENT between God and man about how one gets to heaven.

The Old Testament writings would not be in the Christian Bible if it were no longer valid......indeed, they are completely valid and simply used in a new way.

The reason that many of the sayings of Jesus (indeed, the whole "New Testament") seem contradictory is that the followers of the false apostle Saul/Paul had to edit the old stories and invent new things for Jesus to say to support their new "Christ" religion and its free ticket to heaven.

So.......for the true "Christian" (meaning the follower of the false apostle Saul/Paul) the Old Testament is indeed a huge and valid part of their religion because they see the new agreement as only applying to their salvation (and they can twist the Old Testament writings to create "prophecies" of their "Christ").

The true followers of Jesus, of course, see the new agreement and the "Christ" mythology of the false apostle Saul/Paul as a bunch of crap......always have......and they believe in the OLD AGREEMENT.........just as Jesus did (and some of his sayings show us).

All very fascinating and explanatory of the huge confusion that is so rampant in the crazy mixed up religion of "Christianity."

Read the work of the Jewish scholar Hyam Maccoby for the details.......he lays it out in clear and easy to understand terms......and proves it quite conclusively from ancient Jewish writings.

https://www.amazon.com/Mythmaker-Paul-Invention-Christianity/dp/0062505858

Now maybe you will at least be on your way to understanding Christianity.

We can deal with Islam bit by bit as we go along in the process of healing your Islamophobia.

(Wink)