A lame Australian response to a Donald brush off

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  1. LangleyMan

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    Europeans go from "clueless" and having a "worthless opinion" to rating Obama "on what was good for them."

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    You think his comments make sense? Egads.
     
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    Obama was very well respected in Oz - still is. As for Morrison. I can understand why Trump wouldn't bother. I mean, we're minnows. Trump has to deal with sharks like Putin.
     
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    It's likely because Australia 'colluded' with members of the Obama Administration prior to the last Presidential election. A well deserved snub. The Brits did the same.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Foreigners enjoy Americans who ingratiate and criticize themselves. Obama was a master at that.
     
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    You are. telling us the euro opinion of trump as if their opinion should be our opinion too

    And I dont think so
     
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  7. EarthSky

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    Despite his fecklessness, he was a nice guy and an eloquent speaker

    The orange buffoon......??
     
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    He wasn't such a nice guy and was a boring speaker. He'd say something absolutely mundane and then pause to make sure everyone caught on to his depth of thought. He was, and is, an embarrassment.

    Not too many accomplishments either, accept to increase the national debt by over $1 trillion per year.
     
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    Lol, you think Obama was bad, wait to you get a hold of what Trump's gonna do to the national debt!:omfg:

    From that commie rag Forbes

    "Republicans use a sound bite that the federal debt doubled under Obama. In looking at the numbers that is close to being numerically correct but falls short of being 100%. However when you take into account the Great Recession, making W. Bush’s temporary tax cuts permanent, increased Social Security and Medicare spending as more Baby Boomers retire and become 65 years old and the Afghanistan and Iraq wars he inherited the story is quite different."

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...-than-reagan-h-w-bush-or-w-bush/#342e51491917
     
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    We should one and all agree that Trump is a demagogue. Some Europeans are as clueless as our Trumpites.

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    The world only cares what free stuff it can get from America

    Obama was a soft touch ut trump is not
     
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  12. EarthSky

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    America has largely been the beneficiary of a global economic structure that has allowed it to expand all over the globe. America does not give free stuff. It takes resources and props up governments and powers that allow it and it's foreign allies to dominate the world production in wealth, resources and energy. America has 5% of the worlds population and owns 41% of the worlds wealth.

    http://fortune.com/2015/09/30/america-wealth-inequali

    https://public.wsu.edu/~mreed/380American Consumption.htm
     
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    Trump inherited these programs. If he supports private companies with government funds, like Solyndra, he is equally to blame.

    The charges that Obama doubled the federal debt is 'close to being' numerically correct. We'll see how Trump does and if the Left riots when he cuts programs to decrease the debt. I think they will riot. What about you?
     
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    Isn't free enterprise grand? Other countries should try it.
     
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    You have the story backwards

    The world thinks like you do and it makes them feel entitled to everything they can take from America
     
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    Exactly right

    We created the wealth that EarthSky and other foreigners are so envious of
     
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    On the contrary, Morrison was a sloppy effort to prevent the conservative wing of the LNP from seizing power in the form of a Dutton Prime Ministership.

    That they went down this route at all is truly astounding. Our political system is broken and it won't change until we have serious constitutional reform.

    Moreover, I do not trust us to get this right at all. We will **** it up spectacularly.
     
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    Well, let's look at it then. How do you think you created all that wealth - and I don't mean just in right-wing memes? Let's look at actual facts. It is true that America is by far the world's wealthiest nation but how did that come about? What are the factors that have led to such strong economic growth? Why was the post war era from the 40's to late 70's so good for the middle class and how does that compare to now and what are the differences in economic policy that have brought this about?

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    Mind that 1% of Americans own 42 % of the nations wealth and that 3 people own more wealth than the bottom half. globally, 1% of the world's population holds roughly half the world's wealth and that 42 families own more than 3.7 billion people.

    https://www.alternet.org/books/toxic-inequality-book-race-income-and-wealth

    https://opentextbc.ca/introductiontosociology/chapter/chapter10-global-inequality/

    https://www.scmp.com/news/world/uni...richest-people-us-own-much-wealth-bottom-half

    Considering that financialization of the economy contributes to a lot of the wealth created and that much of the rest is based on resource extraction, how much of that wealth was actually created and how much was extracted.

    Oh, and I live in a wealthy western country with universal health care and a reasonably effective social safety net - though that could be hugely improved upon - so envy has nothing to do with it. I would not give up my country to live in the US for all the money in Koch industries...........
     
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    An utterly obnoxious, stupid comment.

    This flag hangs near the altar is in a famous cathedral, Old St. Paul's, in Wellington, New Zealand, a couple of blocks from their parliament.

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    The inscription on a plaque explaining:

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    Maybe you don't travel very much, but you shouldn't be running your mouth about what you know not.
     
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    I’m sure you can find many leftwing explainations for the recent decline of the middle class in comparison to the top 1%

    But they all come down to the usual leftwing knee-jerk hate for the rich

    The real problem as I see it is free trade with low wage countries like china robbing American workers of their manufacturing jobs

    We need those jobs back in America again
     
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    You seem more concerned about disparities in wealth rather than 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness', as well as the power of the Constitution. Perhaps Americans don't mind these different incomes as much as foreigners do.
     
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    The generation that was greatful for the Marines is dying off fast not only “over there” but in America also
     
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    I think foreigners want the wealth transered to them rather than the American middle class
     
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    A person could travel a great deal without ever entering Old St. Paul's in Wellington (where I lived and worked for several months).

    The remark was neither stupid or obnoxious.
     
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    No he is correct, you will find details in John Perkins' book on how they did it, started with Iran 1951

    The New Confessions of an Economic Hit Man
    https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/B017MZ8EBM/ref=pe_1007802_166382322_TEM1DP


    Blurb vv
     
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