Dallas police officer who shot man in his own apartment indicted on murder charge

Google Roy Oliver in Balch Springs TX. It’s 10 miles from this shooting and happened less than 2 years ago. He was responding to a “shots fired “ call and it was a less questionable (still man slaughterer or murder 2) shooting and he is in prison for murder 1. Convicted 1 week before this shooting.

 

Not if they're doing a proper investigation, with pictures, video, ect.. At least not to the degree you are implying.

I couldn't care less whether or not he had weed (or any other drug for that matter) in his apartment or body. It's irrelevant. The only thing I really care about in this case is did the shooter truly believe that she was in her own apartment, and if so, how mitigating should that be.

 

She will never be convicted of murder.

It was an obvious mistake.......she could be convicted of negligence.......never murder.

 

The point is that she able to see him in the apartment in order to shoot him,
but claims she could not see the apartment itself in order to see that it wasn't hers.


And there would be plenty of light shining into from the hallway into the apartment to see in the apartment. It's not as if the apartment is a black hole where no light escapes besides a silhouette of a black dude.

 

If it is true, though it's only her word, that she tried her key before finding the door already open then that points to her genuinely thinking that she was entering her own apartment. In that case I cannot see how it can be a murder charge. Another point to consider is if her flat is located in a similar position as the victim's flat on a different floor. Even if you've had too much to drink you tend to know the approximate position of your home though you might go to the wrong floor

 

That is true.

 

Okay...that gets us passed one point.....so...what if she in fact was in the apartment of another person not visibly armed and not obeying commands? Still....no problem with her shooting them?

 

What is the premeditation and motive to move it above a manslaugther?

 

I will remind everybody, an indictment is not a conviction.

 

I'm not sure how to read your question. As it happened, in the apartment that was not hers with no probable cause as a reason to enter, she has no right to shoot anybody, armed or not.

If she walked into my apartment unannounced with no probable cause or search warrant, she has no right to shoot me, whether I am armed or not, because I am a legal gun owner in my own residence and can be armed if I want with no legal consequence. I would have more right to shoot her, especially if she didn't identify herself as a police officer. I'd be just as dead, armed or disarmed, if she shot me, but either way, my family would sue her and the police department for huge money.

I'm sure you will see the DPD get sued by the victims family in this case. To the DPD's disgrace, they tried to bring up a "marijuana stash" in the victims apartment via a leak to the media. Whether it was a plant by the police or an illegal substance possessed by the victim, it has no bearing on this case and wreaks of a smear job by the DPD.

 

What did the legal resident do to threaten her? He was in his own home. She walked into another man's home and shot him. She had no business entering another man's home. I don't care how much alike apartments look. If you get into a car identical to yours in a parking lot and the key doesn't fit, do you hot wire it and drive away?

 

What if she honestly and reasonably believed she was in her own apartment?

 

He didn't, that doesn't make it murder over manslaughter.

Yes I know

What is the premeditation and motive to move it murder and not manslaughter? You do understand the difference?

 

It would be manslaughter I would think.

 

Wrong analogy. As I understand it, the front door was ajar.

 

Why? Why not 100% innocent...just as though she was IN FACT in her own apartment?

 

So where's Steve? He just has to have an opinion on this.

 

Someone died because of her gross negligence.

 

Someone died because she deliberately murdered him.

 

"This is a terrible tragedy that resulted from a true mistake," he said. "We are confident that a dispassionate jury in a fair forum will objectively apply the law to the facts and find Amber not guilty."

And unless some other evidence comes out to paint a different picture, I don't see how she can be found guilty of anything. It was a horrible mistake.

 

I am sure you would be saying the same thing if she had barged into one of your relatives house and murdered someone you know.

 

According to the only person alive to witness it and with a motive to say so. The details are sketchy in public media. I also heard that she was trying the key in the door and he opened it. It'll come out in the trial. Would a civilian with a gun get the same treatment if they walked into his apartment and shot him? They would throw me under a jail and I have the same right to carry a gun as her in this instance.

 

So...and honest and reasonable (but mistaken) belief in a set of facts is not a complete defence in the US?

 

The only place I have heard that key stuff is here.

I hope a civilian would get the same treatment.

 

Is it a "reasonable" mistake?

Is it a reasonable mistake if I don't see a speed limit sign on the highway?