Trump, Pelosi, Schumer spar on border wall in Oval Office

Classy. You are exsactly the type of person we say Democrats are.

That's why every DNC type is here trying to spin this into some kinda win. If that were true, Nancy wouldn't beg to debate in private. She would want more televised debates with trump. I hope we see more. It's called transparency Andrew.

 

Mexico said no, the wall pays for itself and using Mexico as an excuse to not safeguard Americans isn't going to fly.
Trump is going to build it with or without Pelosi, Schumer, or Mexico.

 

He can't get 10 senators either. That's the point. He does not have the votes in either the House or the Senate. That is the bluff that Pelosi called.

 

Trump is going to spend his own money to build a wall? Trump is going to deprive American citizens of their land on his own? Trump is going to re-write environmental laws on his own?

 

Did you remember to tell your friends about the #BlueWave?

 

We will have more jobs in America because trump was elected than America would have had under jeb bush or hillary

 

If you're foolish enough to think that nobody will care, watch this space!

 

What do Democrats suggest to secure our border and end illegal immigration?

Your wave failed to take the Senate. If you did I would say it was a blue wave.

Watch out though, lots of forum rule nazis around that gonna slam you for your off topic post

 

Why would you debate something that has already been settled after the fact. Trump exposed Schumer and Pelosi for what they are. Groveling little weasels. Trump was promised on the last Gov shut down that an agreement can be reached.

The amount he is asking for is a pale in comparison to bills like this and it clearly shows nothing more than further resistance. Trump drew a line in the sand and put them on camera so everyone can see the Nancy and Chuck dance.

It is clear they do not want to secure the boarder as they continue to support sanctuary cities. Any mention of walls don't work is just ignorant bluster. Not to mention it has already been determined the wall pays for itself.

Trump is building his wall with or without the Democrats and he has made it clear he will not move from the previous agreement during Schumers last shut down. You might as well get used to it, Democrats have no power in the country for a reason. The people won't give it to them.

 

Ya think?

 

You have been a member over 3 months and you still haven't learned the Rules of Thread Creation?

Besides, this subject was already beaten to death (in a thread from yesterday):

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...pelosi-argue-over-border-wall-funding.547192/

And, unless you are terminally starved for attention, or it is your mission to spam the forum with REDUNDANCY--why did you even start this thread, if there was already a thread on this subject?

And then to top it off, you change the title of the linked video (which is against the Rules).

Is that a RW thing?

Oh well.

And, talk about "weak attempt".

The entire attempt by the Trump-Deluded RW Fever Swamp to spin Pelosi's Total OWNAGE of Trump (into a ridiculously delusional opposite narrative) is beyond comical.

Carry on and have a nice day.

 

Think what?

Everyone thought the last shutdown was a joke?

Or that Democrats make threads here saying how illegal immigration lowers crime rates because they are better people then the Americans already here?

 

The only funny part are Democrats on record saying it doesn't exist.

 

Well, if he ever does build it (most unlikely), you're right; Pelosi and Schumer won't be involved but your wallet sure as heck will.

That's exactly what he claimed in his campaign.

Not!

 

You can piece together any kind of theory you want. The fact is, The wall will be built, Sanctuary cities are getting gutted, and the Democrat party is going to have to depend on American citizens to get votes now. This immigration free ride is over so the sooner you get used to it the better off you will be.

 

And the fact that vote harvesting is actually made legal in California.

 

Total cost per citizen is less than $100 bucks. I'm in but as long as we are in we will want the benefit of the immediate financial return of not spending $74K per illegal over the boarder so at an average rate of 1500 people per day stopped, it won't take long to see a nice profit.

 

Like I said, watch this space.

Trump set himself up, and now all he has to do is bluster his way to being blamed for a shutdown.

The odds of it went way up after Trump's tirade yesterday. The man has no self discipline at all.

The transparency talking point didn't last the afternoon. The pretend that Trump won something crumbled just as fast.

And now, you're down to the it doesn't matter defense.

Just like your hero, now that I come to think about it.

Don pays off the porn star to keep the story out of the tabloids the week after "Access Hollywood".

Then he lies about it. And lies about it some more.

Then his bag man gets outed and they both try and lie about it.

Then they get caught.

So, Trump finally defaults to the it doesn't matter that I ordered someone to commit a felony on my behalf and besides it doesn't matter defense.

Just like you're doing.

And with similar results.

 

Right, because after two years of single party rule and losing 40 seats and control of the House, NOW is the time!

 

They suggest spending north of a billion on border security - to pay for the agents, to use technology, to repair infrastructure, and to enhance the capabilities of dealing with illegal immigration across the country. They also propose protecting those immigrants that wish to pay their debt to society and to contribute to our country in exchange for citizenship.

And if the #BlueWave had taken the Senate when Democrats had 26 on the chopping block, we would be talking about a #BlueTsunami. Instead, the #BlueWave is an accurate description and since Trump has decided to double down on his all-the-base, all-the-time strategy, the #BlueWave is going to turn into a #BlueTide.

Remember to tell your friends Satan.

 

So you're good with saddling the struggling American tax payer with an additional $33,000,000,000 on a stupid symbolic wall at a time when net migration is essentially static and which many experts claim won't work anyway?

 

what does that mean? Kinda sounds like a threat.

What am I doing?

 

I gave you real data.

Of course it is and the Democrats are holding them hostage. The bipartisan was hardly

"So, the Flake – Durbin bill doesn’t fund the wall, doesn’t eliminate chain migration, grants citizenship to DACA recipients and potentially to their lawbreaking parents, and doesn’t end the dangerous visa lottery program that has brought terrorists to our country..................

Our take on the Flake – Durbin amnesty “bill” was well summed-up in a tweet by Senator Tom Cotton (R-AR), whose popular legal immigration-cutting RAISE Act was endorsed by President Trump in 2017:

Might as well roll it straight into the trash can ... mass amnesty far beyond DACA, fake border security, no end to chain migration. https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/953395496143466501 …

Cotton went on to say the “Gang of Six” amnesty plan was dead on arrival and later elaborated in a joint statement with Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, that, "The Durbin-Graham-Flake proposal would do nothing to solve the underlying problem in our current immigration system… It does not take the needed steps to fix our porous border and it fails to empower law enforcement to apprehend and remove dangerous criminals who are here illegally."
http://conservativehq.com/article/27232-trump-shoots-down-senate-liberals’-amnesty-bill

Pelosi was asked directly would she compromise on the wall to get DACA and she flatly refused say she would NEVER support any wall funding PERIOD. It is the Democrats who are being intractible holding the DACA kids as hostage.

1:44 Just "some degree" of wall funding not all for a bonifide complete solution for DACA. NOPE she says