Trump, Pelosi, Schumer spar on border wall in Oval Office

He owns the property, he is responsible.

So now you are saying his resort hired illegals.

 

So you're good with barbed wire but not a wall? Is that a joke? There's no difference except barbed wire would be useless and a wall wouldn't. Barbed wire works for animals, not humans.

And if you're concerned with national debt why did you list things that are never ending money pits?

Also, where are the politicians advocating for the things you listed? They're nowhere to be found because security is not what they want. They want power plain and simple.

Again, the left doesn't care about border security, they only say they do.

 

Sorry but your opinion on this doesn't count for much with me.

 

I do see the microexpression for worried about something cross her face after he tells her he doesn't need her to get the house.
I'd expect scorn from someone having the thoughts you describe.

 

There was no popular vote, you didn't vote in my state and I didn't vote in yours. There were 51 entirely unique and separate elections. Trump twice as many as Clinton. Tallying up all those 51 separate and unique elections and pretending that represent what the results of an actual popular vote would have been is utter folly.

 

What Border Patrol Agents Think About Immigration Policy
January 14, 20188:02 AM ET
Heard on Weekend Edition Sunday

The U.S. border with Mexico is a difficult place to patrol. Chris Cabrera, spokesperson for the National Border Patrol Council, speaks with NPR's Lulu Garcia-Navarro about what a wall would mean.

LULU GARCIA-NAVARRO, HOST:

With immigration discussions foundering on Capitol Hill, we wondered what the people on the frontlines of implementing those policies think. Chris Cabrera is a spokesperson for the National Border Patrol Council, the union that represents the nation's almost 20,000 border patrol agents. He joins us on the line from his office in McAllen, Texas, on the border. Welcome to the program.

CHRIS CABRERA: Thank you.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: So as Congress and the president negotiate over immigration policy, what do you and your colleagues want them to know?

CABRERA: Our biggest concern is getting clear marching orders and, you know, getting this wall built in the strategic locations and just going forward and getting it done.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: Yeah. I was on the border, and I talked to the head of the Border Patrol in the Rio Grande Valley. And he said that a literal wall is only needed in a very few places and that, actually, what is needed is more of a technological wall - cameras, infrared technology, drones.

CABRERA: You have the need for a physical barrier. You have the need for technology with the infrared, with, you know, the ground sensors and cameras. And you have the personnel aspect of it, as well. The wall and the technology won't do you any good unless you have the manpower to actually physically apprehend somebody.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: But the president talks about this sort of wall from sea to shining sea.

CABRERA: Yeah. You know, I honestly - I don't think that's going to work. I mean, if you look at Big Bend, you'll have areas that are a 30-foot cliff down to the Rio Grande. And to put another 30-foot section on top of that - it seems kind of redundant.

GARCIA-NAVARRO: What about Border Patrol agents? Brandon Judd, the president of the National Border Patrol Council, of which you belong, complained just this past week on Capitol Hill that the president has only proposed and Congress is slated on funding 500 new agents this year. At this rate, the agents we hire this year will be halfway to retirement before we meet the goal in 2028. Are you satisfied with the amount of support you're getting for hiring more agents?

CABRERA: Well, you know, one of the problems we're having is not necessarily hiring more agents - is retaining the agents we do have. That is one of our biggest problems right now. You know, we have to pay our agents competitively. If not, they'll go to other agencies, which we've been seeing recently.

 

Foolish, and you accomplish nothing

 

Yes this $5B will put walls in strategic places, what's your point?

Border Patrol agents overwhelmingly support Trump's wall in new survey
The NBPC’s survey, of more than 600 agents in two of the Border Patrol’s busiest sectors, found just the opposite: A stunning 89 percent of line agents say a “wall system in strategic locations is necessary to securing the border.” Just 7 percent disagreed.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/2/border-patrol-agents-back-trump-wall-survey-finds/

 

The popular vote is irrelevant <Rule 2> If we used the popular vote you have NO IDEA how the vote would've turned out. That's why it's irrelevant. <Rule 2/3>

 

Common sense and that is why they don't respond. They want power? Trump wants........ I have seen the kind of barbed wire that they install, and it works. A wall isn't a money pit? How many billions of dollars? 5 billion dollars is only the beginning.

 

I think surprise is more like it.

 

It's an incredibly stupid and fake way to address the issue and …

 

In strategic places, maybe. Trump wants more and 5 billion is only a start. That is my point.

 

Okay, he needs ten votes then.

 

So, start there and get the necessary pieces in place and then look at it again. Then the debate can be "where and when" we need to make improvements.

Border security is essential on the Southern border and I wish both parties would come together and get it done. Add immigration and DACA to that.

 

The new NAFTA will make sure they pay for the wall.

 

Trump made them look like what they are which is sleazy politicians and stood in stark contrast as a president not willing to play political games with the security of America.

 

Money well spent.

 

Worry is close to surprise but distinct. Compare Chuck and Nancy's faces when he tells Nancy he doesn't need her to get the house.

Chuck is surprised, Nancy is worried.

 

WOW! You're good! You can invent a spin to "prove" night doesn't follow day.

 

He made them look petty and small, which they are.

 

So typical. When a rightie can't argue a point intelligently, they can be counted on to assert that the poster doesn't understand the subject.

Obviously I DO "get it". And I believe the electoral college is anti-democratic and should be eliminated.

 

Actually, it's the mythical "Popular Vote Presidential Election" that is distorted.

America is a Republic.

 

Hardly.

 

That's always the limp and lame cry when the facts are stacked against the right. And in this specific case the assertion is irrelevant to the discussion.